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On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 12:00 PM, Raymond Jennings <shentino@×××××.com> |
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> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Robin H. Johnson <robbat2@g.o> |
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>> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 02:38:55PM -0800, Alec Warner wrote: |
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>> > According to the bylaws and NM law, the board may direct the formation |
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>> of |
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>> > specific committees. I recommend we form an adhoc research committee to |
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>> do |
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>> > the following: |
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>> > 1) Draw up a list of requirements for umbrella organizations (output, a |
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>> > document of requirements.) |
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>> #1 requirement: must be willing to take Gentoo as a member. |
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>> > 2) Draw up a list of umbrella organizations (SPI, SFC, etc.) |
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>> > 3) Evaluate each umbrella organization with regards to requirements in |
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>> 1. |
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>> I think many of the orgs will say no to #1, but ideally each org has a |
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>> well defined set of criteria for joining, that we can evaluate Gentoo |
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>> against. |
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>> > NM law requires a committee have at least 2 board members, I nominate |
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>> > myself and Robin. The committee may enlist the assistance of non-board |
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>> > members (many of whom are CC'd; I also CC'd gentoo-project as there are |
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>> > similar threads there. |
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>> I decline the nomination, on account of needing time to spend on family |
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>> matters; I will help where possible, but will commit to spending |
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>> additional time on this (my remaining trustee term is dedicated to the |
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>> financial matters). |
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>> |
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>> -- |
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>> Robin Hugh Johnson |
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>> Gentoo Linux: Dev, Infra Lead, Foundation Trustee & Treasurer |
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>> E-Mail : robbat2@g.o |
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>> GnuPG FP : 11ACBA4F 4778E3F6 E4EDF38E B27B944E 34884E85 |
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>> GnuPG FP : 7D0B3CEB E9B85B1F 825BCECF EE05E6F6 A48F6136 |
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> If I may ask, why isn't the Gentoo Foundation itself suited to be the |
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> organization? |
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> If there are any problems can't it just elect new trustees or change its |
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> bylaws or something? |
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Not to insult the previous trustees, but I can't say the existing board |
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(including myself) has done a great job; nor have previous boards. |
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Could a new board be elected? Sure. Foundation members have this power. But |
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people have to stand for nomination to the board. If no one is interested |
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in running the non-profit it becomes difficult to further the argument that |
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the existing non-profit is suited. |
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In the past the non-profit was run in a "keep the lights on" fashion. We |
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took in money, paid bills and filled paperwork. If that is what the |
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Foundation's responsibilities end up being; then I think it will remain |
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difficult to find board members and there is really not much advantage to |
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having a separate non-profit at all. We might as well just join an umbrella |
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organization. |
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If the Foundation was to be more active (raise more money, have complex |
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interactions, employees, etc.) then being an umbrella is risky because |
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there can be a lot of friction from that sort of structure. However very |
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few individuals seem to want a more active Foundation and I see many in the |
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developer community oppose such activities. So I don't see an active |
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Foundation as likely. |
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-A |