Gentoo Archives: gentoo-nfp

From: joshua jackson <tsunam@g.o>
To:
Cc: trustees <trustees@g.o>, gentoo-nfp <gentoo-nfp@l.g.o>
Subject: [gentoo-nfp] Re: Status meeting --- 30 March
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 06:55:39
Message-Id: 47EB44DA.4020702@gentoo.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-nfp] Status meeting --- 30 March by Ferris McCormick
1 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
2 Hash: SHA1
3
4 Ferris McCormick wrote:
5 | This is a brief update for the status meeting this Sunday.
6 |
7 | 1. I have not yet heard back from Mr. Chew in New Mexico on our
8 | reinstatement. He indicated that it would take a few days, so this is
9 | not a concern. I do not know (and he did not know) just what
10 | information he needs from the state, so NM government agencies might be
11 | involved. I'll call him at the end of the week if we haven't heard
12 | anything.
13 No worries, once we know then we know what we need to do and how much it
14 will be. I figure ~1 hour to figure our our status and then probably
15 another ~1 hour for filing is what we'll be billed for at the moment.
16
17 |
18 | 2. I have looked at the proposed bylaws on our web site and as revised
19 | on 2007-01-22. Except for the change from NM to Delaware, the proposed
20 | revision is closer to what we actually are. That said, let me raise a
21 | few points.
22 | a. The (2007-01-22) proposal is quite detailed. Do we want the
23 | initial bylaws to go into such specificity? This is probably not a big
24 | deal one way or the other, because the bylaws are easily amended. And
25 | NM does not care what is in them as long as they do not conflict with NM
26 | law.
27 | b. Both sets of bylaws call out both a Board (of Trustees) and
28 | officers of the Foundation chosen by the trustees. At the moment, we
29 | (the trustees) are acting as the officers of the Foundation (because we
30 | chose ourselves if for no other reason). We need to think through how
31 | this works and what structure we want.
32 | c. Trustees must be members of the Foundation, but Officers of the
33 | Foundation need only to be alive (in order to carry out their duties).
34 | Right now that is probably OK because we have neatly resolved the issue
35 | for the moment (see point b).
36 |
37 | Because everything we do (in NM or anywhere else) keys off the bylaws, I
38 | lean toward a recommendation as follows: After a quick scrub for sanity
39 | and correctness, adapt the 2007-01-22 revision, with an eye to amending
40 | it as experience warrants. And I know Roy has some ideas along these
41 | lines which might belong in the bylaws or not. My inclination is to
42 | pursue his ideas by other means because the bylaws should be rather
43 | brief and general: The bylaws are the rules explaining who we are and
44 | how we work procedurally. Thus, it is appropriate and necessary for the
45 | bylaws to explain who the members are and how we vote, but inappropriate
46 | for them to call out the President's salary. The bylaws are an enabling
47 | document, giving the Trustees authority to act.
48 I'd like to be around for any proposed changes..and I still need to
49 review the bylaws, but I don't believe we can unilaterally change the
50 bylaws per their inherent nature and statements of the members being
51 able to vote on such changes I believe. Don't quote me as I've not read
52 them in a while and really do need to reread them in detail. If I recall
53 its not a "salary" but a stipend. Which is entirely different in the
54 legal sense of the matter.
55
56 |
57 | I hope to have a bit more on this later this week, but I am sending this
58 | out a bit early because I know Josh is travelling this weekend. and I
59 | wish to give him a chance to respond.
60 |
61 Thanks for the list.
62
63 As well I did a rough grep in ldap for user join date but not
64 associating with a retiring date as we don't have a date for being
65 retired. All members prior to 3/26/07 were included in the list I have
66 in my home directory on dev. It totals to 506 members roughly, now note
67 that this doesn't count for people who were here less then a year but it
68 should be fairly easy to figure out who was not here for the full time
69 or we could just do a clean slate and say everyone on that list was....
70 Of those 506 members, 379 are marked as retired in perl_ldap as well.
71 That means that we have 127 developers who are active and part of the
72 foundation. I can form a draft letter later to all members to collect a
73 bare minimum of information we need from each one as many of the retired
74 members no longer have forwards to other accounts making tracking of
75 some down harder. If the requirement is simply a name and email the vast
76 majority will be easy...however for those long retired it might be
77 looking at if they are to still be considered members of the foundation
78 as the bylaws have for the different levels of members.
79
80 Just another item that we need to get in order as well...
81
82 Its late and I must pack so have a good week all and I look forward to
83 hearing what happened in the meeting.
84 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
85 Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux)
86 Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
87
88 iD8DBQFH60Ta2ZWR0Jhg/EsRAvBfAJ9XkGycN9pkohmJAO/v7+FHCanB4wCeIs63
89 my8LYQuvtDj78jm+GyflAG0=
90 =YZsT
91 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
92
93 --
94 gentoo-nfp@l.g.o mailing list