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William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: |
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> No it's not because the foundation encompasses the community. |
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No. |
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> Representing the community was the foundations intention, but over time. |
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> As the foundation was neglected, it seems that was never realized. |
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I was around when the foundation got there and even before... |
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>>> Some of our longest contributing members to Gentoo Java, aren't devs, |
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>>> nor will they ever be. They don't want to be. Some even have their own |
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>>> overlays. So guess they should not have any say or input. |
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>> You just told me that their input has been treasured by the java team, |
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> Does it mean it was passed on to the council? |
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Was it needed? Anything prevented anybody to pass it on? |
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> Does it mean that if they want me to do something I do? |
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No and that is wonderful. You are free to waste your time in any way you |
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like, as long you don't damage the others. The subtle beauty of freedom. |
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> Does it mean I represent them and their will? |
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In which aspect? Their will about gentoo and java? If you value and |
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treasure their input as you told me, I think they could consider that |
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you are pretty much doing that. |
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>> the fact they do not want to become developers while they are |
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>> maintaining an overlay is something that should be addressed, but is |
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>> completely off topic. |
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> They don't want to deal with the BS of being a dev. Frankly I can't |
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> blame them in the least. |
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Not that you aren't threating of adding a large deal of bureaucracy |
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right now, is it? (c.f the twin email in which you take the letter of a |
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glep as a weapon against me apparently) |
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>>> There should not be this elitism with a divide between developers, |
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>>> users, contributors, sponsors, etc. We are all together the Gentoo |
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>>> community. Which the foundation as I understand it, was intended from |
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>>> it's inception to represent. |
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>> NO, the foundation is an US activity born to have people sponsoring us |
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>> get tax cuts. At least that was the main idea. |
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> Who's idea? |
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People who tried to move from inc. to a nfp org. |
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> Who created the foundation? Who handed things over to the |
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> foundation? What was their intentions? That was surely not their plan. |
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> If it was their plan, they would have filed 501c3, not 501c6. Which has |
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> no provisions for write off. |
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I think everybody could dig the discussion about why 501c6 and not |
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501c3, I couldn't care less since I'm European and by that time I wasn't |
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that interested on the issue. |
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> Never has anyone ever legally been able to donate to and write off as a |
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> charitable donation. Any amount to the Gentoo Foundation, ever. It's not |
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> that type of legal entity. |
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I know, it was supposed to be something else from start. |
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lu |
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Luca Barbato |
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Gentoo Council Member |
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Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC |
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http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero |
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