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On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Mark Loeser <halcy0n@g.o> wrote: |
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> "William L. Thomson Jr." <wltjr@g.o> said: |
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>> On Fri, 2008-05-23 at 01:47 +0200, Luca Barbato wrote: |
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>> > > What happens if infra decided we need to buy our SSL certs rather than |
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>> > > free from CACert? What happens if hardware we own dies and we have to |
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>> > > buy a replacement? What happens if the council wants to do new things, |
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>> > > request is made to infra, but funds are there to make such request |
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>> > > happen? |
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>> > The usual, somebody steps up for providing those if interested. |
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>> Ok so if infra was polled right now. Would they say they have all they |
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>> need. Or let's go one further all they would like. |
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>> FYI, I am about to start removing FreeBSD keywords. Since there is no |
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>> one doing keywording there anymore. I am held up on some things I need |
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>> to do on the Java front for months now. Do we have any infra maintained |
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>> FreeBSD boxes available for our developers. Like we do for other archs? |
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> How is this related at all to the current discussion? Perhaps you |
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> should contact the developers that are trying to get Gentoo/FreeBSD |
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> going. |
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>> > Usually sponsorship or just the improvements they are bound to give back |
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>> > due gpl. We are not doing this for money, you know? |
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>> Yes, but we require $ to do what we do now. Gentoo doesn't happen for |
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>> free either. Again with all this time people are giving. If we had no |
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>> where to commit our code then? Or means to email each other like now. |
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> So are we going to start paying developers too? Having money for Gentoo |
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> should be to just help out where we can't get sponsors to do so. There |
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> is no way Gentoo will ever be able to pay all of its expenses. I'm not |
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> sure if that's what you are going for, but if so, I can't see how it |
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> will ever happen. |
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No way? How negative :P. I think this is a noble goal (even if only |
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to pay a fraction). |
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I would, however, choose not to throw away certain principles of how I |
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think Gentoo should be ran to |
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achieve this end and I sometimes feel that William's ideas would do so |
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(e.g. selling advertising space). |
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>> I think we already have clear abuses of volunteers and their time. Not |
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>> sure why you think we are much different or better than them. |
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> How are we abusing our volunteers and their time? |
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> -- |
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> Mark Loeser |
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> email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org |
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> email - mark AT halcy0n DOT com |
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> web - http://www.halcy0n.com |
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