Gentoo Archives: gentoo-nfp

From: Alec Warner <antarus@g.o>
To: Mark Loeser <halcy0n@g.o>
Cc: gentoo-nfp@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Section 4.1 Member Classes
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 03:17:09
Message-Id: b41005390805222017i5952bcanca02b64cf02b89a0@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Section 4.1 Member Classes by Mark Loeser
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Mark Loeser <halcy0n@g.o> wrote:
> "William L. Thomson Jr." <wltjr@g.o> said: >> On Fri, 2008-05-23 at 01:47 +0200, Luca Barbato wrote: >> > > What happens if infra decided we need to buy our SSL certs rather than >> > > free from CACert? What happens if hardware we own dies and we have to >> > > buy a replacement? What happens if the council wants to do new things, >> > > request is made to infra, but funds are there to make such request >> > > happen? >> > >> > The usual, somebody steps up for providing those if interested. >> >> Ok so if infra was polled right now. Would they say they have all they >> need. Or let's go one further all they would like. >> >> FYI, I am about to start removing FreeBSD keywords. Since there is no >> one doing keywording there anymore. I am held up on some things I need >> to do on the Java front for months now. Do we have any infra maintained >> FreeBSD boxes available for our developers. Like we do for other archs? > > How is this related at all to the current discussion? Perhaps you > should contact the developers that are trying to get Gentoo/FreeBSD > going. > >> > Usually sponsorship or just the improvements they are bound to give back >> > due gpl. We are not doing this for money, you know? >> >> Yes, but we require $ to do what we do now. Gentoo doesn't happen for >> free either. Again with all this time people are giving. If we had no >> where to commit our code then? Or means to email each other like now. > > So are we going to start paying developers too? Having money for Gentoo > should be to just help out where we can't get sponsors to do so. There > is no way Gentoo will ever be able to pay all of its expenses. I'm not > sure if that's what you are going for, but if so, I can't see how it > will ever happen.
No way? How negative :P. I think this is a noble goal (even if only to pay a fraction). I would, however, choose not to throw away certain principles of how I think Gentoo should be ran to achieve this end and I sometimes feel that William's ideas would do so (e.g. selling advertising space).
> >> I think we already have clear abuses of volunteers and their time. Not >> sure why you think we are much different or better than them. > > How are we abusing our volunteers and their time? > > -- > Mark Loeser > email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org > email - mark AT halcy0n DOT com > web - http://www.halcy0n.com >
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