Gentoo Archives: gentoo-nfp

From: Daniel Robbins <drobbins@g.o>
To: gentoo-nfp@l.g.o
Subject: FW: [Fwd: [gentoo-nfp] Summary of NFP options]
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 18:56:12
Message-Id: E1BDT4t-0005gu-Mf@smtp.gentoo.org
1 This is a repost of Kurt's original reply, which was quite helpful to me.
2
3 -----Original Message-----
4 From: Kurt Lieber [mailto:klieber@g.o]
5 Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 7:11 PM
6 To: gentoo-nfp@l.g.o
7 Subject: Re: [Fwd: [gentoo-nfp] Summary of NFP options]
8
9 > Several developers like the idea of the coop but wanted Gentoo to have
10 > its own NFP entity separate from the cooperatives. I am perfectly
11 > willing to do this -- just set up the NFP entity alone, and then set
12 > up the cooperatives or leave the NFP to figure out how to fund itself if
13 you want.
14 >
15 > It certainly makes my job easier, and my desire was for the coop to be
16 > a "good thing" for gentoo developers and I was trying to ensure its
17 > success by setting up funding for the entity ahead of time. If you
18 > don't want it, I won't do it.
19
20 I think the coop idea is a good thing and I think it may be something that
21 Gentoo should take advantage of. However, I think Gentoo should be
22 completely decoupled so that both organizations are able to decide freely
23 for themselves what is best for each group.
24
25 The coop is a brand new idea. Nobody has really done anything like it
26 before, so it's likely to take a great deal of thought and effort to get set
27 up correctly. I'd hate to see the Gentoo NFP efforts get delayed as a
28 result.
29
30 When the coop is finally set up and ready to go, each organization can look
31 at the other, ensure they still share the same values and goals and then
32 decide how best to partner at that point.
33
34 > You will need to choose between an "open, participatory" (and
35 > co-optable) and a "closed, non-co-optable" (and
36 > non-representative/unfair) governing model. So let me know which you
37 > prefer and I'll get it set up. The other alternative is to try to find
38 > some kind of compromise, where the government for the not-for-profit
39 > isn't too fair or open, but is more bureaucratic and harder to co-opt. Let
40 me know which one appeals to you.
41
42 My personal $.02:
43
44 I'd like to see a closed, non-co-optable model. Both models have their
45 weaknesses, but I think the open one is more susceptible to groupthink, not
46 to mention coersion. I think a closed model, combined with an active, vocal
47 community (which Gentoo certainly has) allows for a solid feedback loop
48 without running the risks of coersion.
49
50 --kurt
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Re: FW: [Fwd: [gentoo-nfp] Summary of NFP options] Lance Albertson <ramereth@g.o>