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First off, since so many email clients seem to have prioritized |
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headers over subject lines with the effect of making it seem to people |
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who use those clients that a thread was hijacked, I'm "moving the |
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discussion" over into a fresh, new email completely unattached to the |
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old thread. I realize it's a bit late, but being that I'm using gmail, |
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I only just realized what happened thanks to the posts by Mr. Alberts |
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and Mr. Freeman that illuminated why some of you though that hijacking |
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and top-posting had occurred. If using gmail or some other client for |
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which there was no issue, then don't worry about it. If you are using |
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one of the affected clients, then sorry about that, and hopefully |
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having a new thread will partially make amends! |
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Anyway, back to the issue at hand. I think I've pretty much said my |
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thoughts (and apparently too aggressively, so hopefully people can get |
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over that and consider what I'm trying to say), but I'd like to |
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respond to a few of the rebuttals. Mr. Alberts seemed to bring up all |
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the assertions other people made in response to my original posting, |
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so I'll respond to him (note that since I'm making a brand new email, |
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I'm hand-formatting the quotation, so I'm sorry if this messes up |
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anyone's client in ways that I can't foresee). |
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John Alberts wrote: |
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> There's really a few problems with your argument. |
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> 1. The "article" in question was not an article at all. It was simply a |
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> collection of popular blog posts from the p.g.o. feed. |
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snip... |
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If that's what it was, then it shouldn't have been. I feel that the |
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point of the GMN is to inform the community about things that are |
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going on very much like a news outlet, and thus, the pieces should aim |
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to summarize and inform in an unbiased way. If editorials or any other |
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kind of piece that has a clearly dominant opinion (as is the case |
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here) are going to go in, then that's wonderful, but as with other |
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news publications, they should be be in their own section. See, |
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writers really need to be careful when make their pieces, or else folk |
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like me get their feathers all ruffled, heh. Perhaps I'm just a bit |
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more sensitive to this stuff having come from a media family and been |
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editor and writer for my school newspapers growing up or perhaps it's |
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just me, but I think it's a good thing to be concerned about. |
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So in other words, I for one would have preferred a piece that aimed |
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to describe the issue and quote people from both sides, since clearly |
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both sides have plenty of proponents. In this particular case, I also |
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think it would have been illuminating to reveal that in spite of the |
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fact that the general community currently seems to be heavily favoring |
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Daniel Robbins' proposal, the developers lean heavily against it. The |
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reason why I think this would have been good to include is because I |
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know that a lot of people out there are disconnected from the |
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developers, so since they just see the general community going in one |
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direction, must be frustrated and confused as to why it isn't simply |
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going forward. Posting links to the posts that oppose it will |
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similarly tell all the people that there are actually several |
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developers out there who disagree, so that's good, but it risks coming |
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off as one-sided and doesn't actually establish the fact that most |
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developers are opposed to it, and doesn't acknowledge that most of the |
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community is for it. |
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> 2. This discussion really belongs in an email to gmn-feedback, not on |
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> the gentoo-nfp list. Although, you are talking about the foundation, |
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> it's really a complaint about how you feel the GMN presented the |
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> information. So, it's best sent to gmn-feedback. |
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snip... |
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Hmm. Yeah, you're right in hindsight. But at least it lead to |
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something worth discussing, since apparently different people have |
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different ideas for what the objectives of GMN should be, with this |
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particular piece about the foundation issue being an excellent |
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example. |
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> 3. If you feel so strongly, you should really write a proper article |
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> yourself and submit it to gmn-feedback for inclusion in the next |
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> newsletter. The GMN really needs more people to participate and submit |
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> articles. I'm sure a properly written article on this topic would be |
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> well accepted. |
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Once upon a time, I considered helping Gentoo out by volunteering for |
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GWN and as a graphic designer, but... Well, I got scared, to be frank, |
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as I'd just left a different project and wasn't really ready to make |
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any new commitments. I think that in a month it will be too late |
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include an article about this since the issue will probably not be |
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relevant anymore, but maybe I'll write a few pieces for GMN about |
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other things in the future if they're interested. :) |
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