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On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 7:05 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. |
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<wltjr@g.o> wrote: |
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> On Fri, 2008-05-23 at 03:26 +0200, Luca Barbato wrote: |
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>> |
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>> > I am not a fan of bureaucracy, but I am a fan of structure and |
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>> > organization. Without you get chaos, and we have that on so many fronts. |
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>> We got chaos because some people are too attached to the letter of |
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>> laws/policy/writtenpaper from my point of view. |
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> Which I tried to fight. But bottom line, people are open to change |
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> things, but not retroactively. Thus until someone does something, and we |
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> move forward with elections. We are stuck in a quagmire. |
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>> > Um, did you not see all the emails where I was fighting GLEP 39? You |
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>> > mentioned the word rules. Which the council is at the top of all. Yet |
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>> > the council doesn't seem to want to enforce their own rules against |
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>> > themselves. |
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>> Check the council ml. |
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> Ok will do, guess I should have been commenting there. Seemed like most |
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> conversations about that were taking place on -project. |
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>> I followed the discussion on -project but I won't comment there, I |
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>> already gave my opinion on the -council ml. |
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> Ok great. Thank you for your input on the matter. But at the end of the |
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> day, opinions are moot. What action is being taken? Is the council |
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> staying or going? |
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Note that in my reading of the GLEP we have 30 days to *begin* the |
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election process. I expect in the end this will occur (feel free to |
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check the -council ml archives for status). |
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I expect the council will start the election process and if they fail |
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to do so I will start it independently. |
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It seems like you are always in a rush :P It takes time for folks to |
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communicate, please be patient. |
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Even if we held an speedy election now, the council we have now is |
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still the council until that election is concluded. |
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-Alec |
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>> > It is a NPO organization, 501c6. Inc has nothing to do with the type of |
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>> > entity. No more than anything else in the name. Incorporation does not |
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>> > imply profit. |
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>> I was referring to Gentoo Technologies inc. |
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> Yes I read something about past issues wrt to embedded Gentoo. Not sure |
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> it was a very long time ago. But that entity hasn't exists for some |
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> time. Predates foundation's creation. |
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> http://www.nmprc.state.nm.us/cgi-bin/prcdtl.cgi?2055978+GENTOO+TECHNOLOGIES+INC |
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>> > Based on how it seemed Daniel operated in the past. I don't think he |
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>> > asked anyone's permission when he resigned and created the foundation. |
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>> > Thus I would find it surprising for him to poll, and act on majority wrt |
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>> > to the type of foundation he was to create. |
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>> In short, the 6 one was quicker to get, at least that's what I recall. |
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> Yes, the other takes 5 years, and the 5 years is a probationary period |
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> so to speak. |
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>> > In how it functions, and it's mission. Not the type of legal entity it |
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>> > is. |
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>> c.f. the freebsd nfp |
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> Which I have looked into allot. They fund developer travel via grants. |
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> And do allot of things. Not to mention have like $400k, and have |
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> investments. Money market account, etc. |
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> Soo many things we are likely years away from or decades at this pace. |
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> -- |
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> William L. Thomson Jr. |
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> amd64/Java/Trustees |
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> Gentoo Foundation |
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