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From: David Abbott <dabbott@g.o>
To: gentoo-nfp <gentoo-nfp@l.g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Trying to figure out Trustee elections 2014-2016
Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 23:18:55
Message-Id: CACs9S6ZQM-Wv44KL2NFNPPOh9PNNDuX2u0Kq+RC6gxwvkJGdaA@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Trying to figure out Trustee elections 2014-2016 by "Michał Górny"
1 On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 6:47 PM Michał Górny <mgorny@g.o> wrote:
2
3 > W dniu czw, 17.05.2018 o godzinie 16∶35 -0400, użytkownik Alec Warner
4 > napisał:
5 > > On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 3:12 PM, Michał Górny <mgorny@g.o> wrote:
6 > >
7 > > > W dniu czw, 17.05.2018 o godzinie 15∶05 -0400, użytkownik David Abbott
8 > > > napisał:
9 > > > > On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 1:17 PM Michał Górny <mgorny@g.o>
10 wrote:
11 > > > >
12 > > > > > Hello, everyone.
13 > > > > > I'm trying to figure out the historical Trustee boards based on
14 > > >
15 > > > election
16 > > > > > results, and I keep hitting something wrong. According to what I
17 have,
18 > > > > > after 2014 elections, the Board was:
19 > > > > > 1st year: (antarus, neddyseagoon) [1]
20 > > > > > 2nd year: (betelgeuse, quantumsummers, swift)
21 > > > > > The 2015 elections mail says that (betelgeuse, swift) rotate [2],
22 > > > > > and (robbat2, swift) were elected [3]. The apparent Board after
23 those
24 > > > > > elections would be:
25 > > > > > 1st year: (robbat2, swift, ???)
26 > > > > > 2nd year: (antarus, neddyseagoon)
27 > > > > > The 2016 elections mail say that (dabbott, neddyseagoon) rotate
28 [4].
29 > > > > > So I have three problems that break continuity of it all:
30 > > > > > 1. What happened to quantumsummers? He's not mentioned for
31 rotation
32 > > > > > in 2015 yet he seems to disappear after all.
33 > > > > > 2. When did dabbott come into the picture? FWIU he wasn't elected
34 > > > > > in 2014, so why did he rotate in 2016?
35 > > > > > 3. Why didn't antarus rotate in 2016? Apparently his term started
36 > > > > > in 2014.
37 > > > > > I just can't figure out how this could have happened. If I
38 assume that
39 > > > > > quantumsummers resigned sometime between 2014 and 2015 elections
40 > > > > > and dabbott replaced him immediately, that could explain his
41 absence
42 > > > > > in 2015 rotation and dabbott's sudden rotation in 2016. But it
43 doesn't
44 > > > > > explain why antarus did not rotate.
45 > > > > > What am I missing? I'd really like to finish my great
46 masterpiece,
47 > > > > > and I've already spent 3 hours trying to figure out what happen
48 > > > > > to Trustees.
49 > > > > > [1]:
50 > > > >
51 > > > > https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-nfp/message/b50682200a033
52 > > >
53 > > > 5f275e0ae6368956dcd
54 > > > > > [2]:
55 > > > >
56 > > > > https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-nfp/message/4f2e6245859b5
57 > > >
58 > > > 7d5e92f075ff0a2ba44
59 > > > > > [3]:https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Elections/Trustees/201506
60 > > > > > [4]:
61 > > > >
62 > > > > https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-nfp/message/ba85d03f0da94
63 > > >
64 > > > 0a733d5be106fe28896
65 > > > >
66 > > > > > --
67 > > > > > Best regards,
68 > > > > > Michał Górny
69 > > > >
70 > > > >
71 > > > >
72 > > > > Hi Michal,
73 > > > > I did not seek re election and antarus took my spot as a trustee,
74 but I
75 > > > > stayed on as secretary, a board member just not a voting trustee.
76 When
77 > > > > quantumsummers was unable to attend meetings we were having a
78 hard time
79 > > > > getting a quarum so I replaced quantumsummers. Antarus did not want
80 to
81 > > >
82 > > > run
83 > > > > for another term afair.
84 > > > >
85 > > >
86 > > > Thanks for the explanation. Could you include a few rough dates
87 > > > in that? Do I think correctly antarus replaced you in 2014 election,
88 > > > and you replaced quantumsummer sometime between 2014 and 2015?
89 > > >
90 > >
91 > > I think there are numerous interpretations.
92 > >
93 > > Quantumsummers was elected in 2013, so should have been forced to
94 rotate in
95 > > 2015. This did not happen, but he was eventually removed in 2015 by the
96 > > board
97 > >
98 > > https://projects.gentoo.org/foundation/motions/2015_motions.txt implies
99 we
100 > > replaced quantsummers in December 2015
101 > >
102 > > 2014: So this is correct:
103 > >
104 > > > > 1st year: (antarus, neddyseagoon) [1]
105 > > > > 2nd year: (betelgeuse, quantumsummers, swift)
106 > >
107 > > 2015: But this means that betelgeuse, quantumsummers, and swift all
108 should
109 > > have rotated.
110 > > Instead quantumsummers remained on the board and was terminated some
111 time
112 > > later (in December 2015.)
113 > >
114 > > > > 1st year: (robbat2, swift)
115 > > > > 2nd year: (antarus, neddyseagoon, dabbot)
116 > >
117 > > I think we are just bad at rotating 3 trustees at once. I vaguely recall
118 > > concerns about proper fill (have 3 positions open and not getting
119 > > sufficient nominations) but I don't recall details; it was mostly
120 discussed
121 > > on IRC, if I recall.
122 > >
123
124 > Thanks, that would explain it. So, do I understand correctly that:
125
126 > VIII 2015 - XII 2015:
127 > 1st year: (robbat2, swift)
128 > 2nd year: (antarus, neddyseagoon)
129 > 3rd year: (quantumsummers)
130
131 > I 2016 - VII 2016:
132 > 1st year: (robbat2, swift)
133 > 2nd year: (antarus, neddyseagoon)
134 > replacement: (dabbott)
135
136 > VIII 2016 - VII 2017:
137 > 1st year: (dabbott, prometheanfire)
138 > 2nd year: (robbat2, swift)
139 > 3rd year: (antarus)
140
141 > ... and in 2017 we finally retire 3 Trustees.
142
143 > Is this correct?
144
145 > --
146 > Best regards,
147 > Michał Górny
148
149
150
151 I am confused, current trustees are;
152
153 alicef
154 dabbott
155 kensington
156 klondike
157 prometheanfire
158
159 Who is up for election this year? 2017
160 dabbott, prometheanfire?
161 Who is up for election next year? 2018
162 alicef, kensington, klondike?
163
164 Thanks
165
166 --
167 David Abbott (dabbott)
168 Gentoo Foundation Secretary
169 http://dev.gentoo.org/~dabbott/

Replies

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Re: [gentoo-nfp] Trying to figure out Trustee elections 2014-2016 Matthew Thode <prometheanfire@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-nfp] Trying to figure out Trustee elections 2014-2016 "M. J. Everitt" <m.j.everitt@×××.org>
Re: [gentoo-nfp] Trying to figure out Trustee elections 2014-2016 "Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike)" <klondike@g.o>