On Sun, 2008-01-27 at 14:37 -0500, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> > Being as it's already January 27th:
> Yes, it wasn't expected days would go by with no response. So picking
> any new dates is kinda pointless till we know when they will be
> commented on.
> > Nominations start Jan 30th through Feb 12th,
> > Elections Feb 13th through 27th, new Trustees in march ;)
> No problem, unless we don't hear from Grant by the 30th. Then we reset
> again and push back/delay some more.
Umm... how about "from now until the 12th" so we can just start and not
wait for Grant.
No offense, but this whole "we have to wait for $foo to comment" is why
we're very much in this boat in the first place. Do any of you
seriously think that Grant is going to have some sort of objection to
the *dates* in which the election is held?
Also, votes can be called by the Foundation membership without Trustee
I'm a Foundation member. I say we call this vote, starting nominations
now, ending the 12th, voting from the 13th through the 27th. There, now
it's official. Can we start nominating now?
> Or any date, even if we don't agree. As most all want the date to come
> from the trustees.
Quit looking to the trustees for everything. That is *also* how we got
into this mess. We're perfectly capable of doing quite a lot without
the trustees, so long as we are acting on their behalf or acting on the
behalf of the Foundation. As a Foundation member, one's vote counts
exactly the same as a trustee, except in cases where the board must make
a decision, which is generally only done as "proxy" to keep from having
to constantly poll the membership. As opposed to the Council, which is
purely a "representative government" the trustees more directly answer
to the membership. The members are the real voters. The trustees just
work on their behalf to save time. If the trustees do something the
membership doesn't like, the membership can vote and veto it and the
trustees cannot do a thing. They don't have any real special powers,
other than what they're granted. This is essentially the opposite of
the Council, which has *every* power except those that are explicitly
Anyway, at this point, we don't need to constantly wait on Grant except
in cases where a signature is required or access to our finances is
required. Remember, it was designed this way on purpose to not impede
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