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From: Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@g.o>
Subject: Re: Foundation existence and behavior (Was: Section 4.1 Member Classes)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 18:06:26 +0100
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On 2008.05.25 16:47, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-05-25 at 08:09 -0400, Richard Freeman wrote:
[snip]

> 
> > The Foundation must remain accountable to developers.
> 
> Who are foundation members by default, entitled to vote or have their
> say on any foundational matters.
> 
> -- 
> William L. Thomson Jr.
> amd64/Java/Trustees
> Gentoo Foundation
> 

Just to clarify the accountability. The Foundation is accountable to 
its members. That reflects the business world where 'members' of a 
corporation are 'share/stock holders' At the moment, members are 
anyone who has ever voted in a Foundation election. Developers are 
eligible to become Foundation members after being developers for a 
year. Those who chose not to vote are not Foundation members and the 
Foundation is not accountable to non members.

There are lots of problems with this. e.g after a few years, most of 
the votes will be held by ex developers, drobbins is still a member, he 
has a vote and can stand for election as a trustee. He was nominated 
too.  

We cannot change the bit about being accountable to members but we are 
free to define the qualifications for membership.

The requirements for membership now are so restrictive that we will not 
be able to find people to stand for election as trustees, simply 
because the set of people interested in becoming Gentoo devepers and 
those interested in becoming trustees has a very small intersection 
[1].

There are two ways address that. 
1. Not have our own Foundation - join one of the umbrella 
organisations
2. Open up membership to Gentoo community participants who do not want 
to become developers in sense of the word as its used today. 

[1] if you doubt that, look at the fall off in trustees and the 
interest in becoming trustees, even in the wake of the publicity at the 
end of last year. 

- -- 
Regards,

Roy Bamford
(NeddySeagoon) a member of
gentoo-ops
forum-mods
treecleaners
trustees
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