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From: Christian Faulhammer <opfer@g.o>
Subject: Re: How to improve the trustees
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 09:22:30 +0100
"Jan Bilek" <clonolu-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@...>:

> I am not a developer, just user, but I hope I can dare to express my
> opinion 

 Of course you can.  Don't ask those silly questions, don't be afraid
of someone who has a developer badge on.  This mailing list is not
read-only for non-devs, so express it. (Though well-informed opinions
are necessary.)
 Most issues were addressed by other people already with whom I agree,
so only one comment.

> Competition of smaller projects led by developers who talk when they
> need to instead of cathedral led by official institutions going
> through official (and less and less efficient) ways. Smaller teams who
> communicate on daily basis so they don't need summaries and reports.

 Actually this is the current state of affairs, in my opinion.  For
example I work in the Emacs team (2 people in total), which is part of
the Lisp project (5 in total).  We have our mailing list, we have three
overlays in total and move ebuilds to the official tree when needed.
Communication happens ad-hoc on IRC, by mail or instant messaging,
whatever is needed and how pressing it is.  We don't do regular reports
or meetings, but I try to get out important news by Planet Gentoo or
the GWN/GMN so people know about it.  Many teams work like that and
that can result in a problem.  You are in your small group, follow
discussions and know about the progess made.  But any outstander has to
guess what happened if there is no such thing as documentation of
upgrade paths, issues or important changes.  That's what Gentoo
suffere/d from, see the front page updates that halted for more than
three months.
 Release engineering has a hard time to get teams moving to fix bugs
(some), but I think this will improve by the more open way how releases
are handled now.

> Thanx for your time reading this.

 Thanks for writing.

V-Li

-- 
Christian Faulhammer, Gentoo Lisp project
<URL:http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-lisp on FreeNode

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