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Square Bottle wrote: |
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> [Responding to two different people in one posting to keep the number |
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> of emails down.] |
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> On Jan 20, 2008 8:56 PM, Mike Frysinger <vapier@g.o> wrote: |
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>> a few things: |
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>> - fix your top posting (in other words, stop doing it) |
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> It was an entirely new topic actually. |
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Please check this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-posting |
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>> - dont hijack existing threads |
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> Again, it was an entirely new topic. You surely noticed that it had a |
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> brand new subject and everything. I accidentally left a different |
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> quote at the bottom because I used a different email to quickly set it |
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> up to send to the list, but this should have been the very last thing |
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> for you to see anyway. |
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If you press reply on an email the client will leave a tag to keep the |
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threads in shape with annoying results you may not expect. Next time |
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please try to write a brand new email. |
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> They chose to use some opinion posts from developers to summarize the |
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> debate, but only ended up giving one side of the story. |
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There aren't other sides on planet gentoo apparently. |
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> I don't really |
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> know how you can say there was no attempt to summarize it, because |
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> clearly something was meant to be reported, or else it would not have |
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> made it into GMN which is itself supposed to summarize what's going on |
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> in the big world of Gentoo. |
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The planet gentoo summary is just that ^^; |
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> Then the editor probably should have reconsidered how to deliver the |
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> information. Also, I sort of doubt that there aren't any gentoo |
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> developers at all on the other side. In any case, like I originally |
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> said, it's entirely possibly that it was just an unintentional |
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> mistake. But it still happened. |
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There is no mistake. The post were those and those were itemized. |
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>> at any rate, the general opinion was reflected in the |
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>> aforementioned blog posts. |
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> Actually, no, the general opinion not only wasn't reflected, but it |
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> wasn't even talked about, which is a big part of why I was upset. The |
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> general opinion is that Daniel coming back would be a good thing, as |
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> evidenced by the overwhelming majority of people that voted in favor |
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> of him coming back. |
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The general Gentoo Planet opinion seems to be against the Daniel |
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proposal since it is too broad, since his past attempts to rejoin Gentoo |
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and the resulting fallout and other details you can read in the tsunam post. |
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> Perhaps among developers the percentage is |
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> different (it sure seems like the developers have the opposite opinion |
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> of the community at large), but we don't know for sure exactly how it |
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> breaks down. The fact of the matter is that there are two sides, and |
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> one side has a very clear majority of support from the general |
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> community, and this side was not at all represented. If you are going |
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> to post opinion pieces from one side, you must post opinion pieces |
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> from the other side. Part of being a reporter is going out and getting |
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> quotes to represent all sides when trying to tell the news. |
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You should check about "vocal minority" and "artificial consensus |
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inflation" |
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> No, but it's loads better than leaving the other side out completely |
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> at least. |
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>From what I could see so far I'm afraid too many people got misguided to |
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frenzy, fail to grasp what is exactly going on and spend most time |
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hindering the process by resonating on mailing lists. |
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Again : |
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- THE WORLD ISN'T ENDING TODAY or REAL SOON (TM) |
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