Gentoo Archives: gentoo-nfp

From: Mike Frysinger <vapier@g.o>
To: gentoo-nfp@l.g.o
Cc: Nikola Zivkovic <theshadowgate@×××××.com>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Some suggestions:
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 03:44:15
Message-Id: 200801162240.41949.vapier@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Some suggestions: by Nikola Zivkovic
1 On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Nikola Zivkovic wrote:
2 > On Wednesday 16 January 2008 07:32:32 pm Caleb Cushing wrote:
3 > > On Thursday 17 January 2008 08:42:16 pm Nikola Zivkovic wrote:
4 > > > 2. Use paludis as default PM.
5 > >
6 > > no. reason... although I haven't tested it recently
7 > >
8 > > 1.) the last 2 times I tried it didn't work out of the box... it asked
9 > > for a config file... all programs should work (maybe not precisely the
10 > > way you want) out of the box. even apache and postfix can be started out
11 > > of the box.
12 > >
13 > > 2.) it's syntax is different. I don't want a new user interface... a new
14 > > backend would be fine. I think most users and admins would agree don't
15 > > change the interface unless it bring significant benefit.
16 > >
17 > > 3.) it's not completely backwards compatible and could potentially break
18 > > things. developers may not care about this but system administrators do.
19 > >
20 > > 4.) it's not done. get it to 1.0 and stable before asking it to replace
21 > > something.
22 >
23 > Naturally I meant to include it when it was finished.
24 > I am using 0.26... and it works very well. It is MUCH faster than emerge,
25 > the config scheme is cleaner and better organized IMHO, and the ooutput it
26 > provides in the console seems much cleaner to me.
27 > It doesn't work out of the box because you have to configure it. The
28 > configuration is relatively easy... especially if you use
29 > portage2paludis.bash.
30 > It hasn't broken anything for me and I've remerged world, gcc, system,
31 > security, etc. However when I used portage to remerge world for 3 days my
32 > machine kept crashing afterwards.
33 > I however hope that *if* paludis manages to win more users over from
34 > portage that it will be included as the default PM.
35
36 unfortunately, the driving reason for it not being default/supported PM is not
37 technical, but the developer behind it.
38 -mike

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