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On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:32:13 +0100 |
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"Jan Bilek" <clonolu@×××××.com> wrote: |
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> I am not saying it's necessarily bad thing to be a bit slower than the |
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> most bleeding-edge distros. Maybe it's because Gentoo has better QA |
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> than for example Arch. Maybe this is just one of these things that |
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> need to be explained to users - a communication issue again. But some |
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> people claim it is because of a lack of manpower in Gentoo - in that |
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> case we might want to re-think recruitment process. |
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There are several aspects here: |
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- if people really want to be on the bleeding edge side they should use |
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~arch versions, but then they can't complain if things break from time |
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to time as you can't have both bleeding edge and super stable at the |
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same time. Many complaints that I've seen about Gentoo being "stale" |
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were regarding the time it takes for a package to move from ~arch to |
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stable. |
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- the repository has grown quite a bit over the last years, and I don't |
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think our human resources for ebuild maintenance have increased on the |
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same scale (I'm not strictly talking about number of devs here) for |
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various reasons. |
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- over the last two years there has been a cultural shift that new |
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packages/versions get first released in overlays rather than being |
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added directly to the main repository |
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- most other distros have probably improved wrt providing up2date |
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packages, so the preceived difference is smaller than some years ago, |
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and most complainers see that as Gentoos fault. |
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> > Arrogant? I'd imagine some are; I personally try not to be and I'm |
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> > sure I fail at it quite often. |
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> > I don't think Gentoo is a club for elitests |
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> I don't think that either. I just wanted to say that I had observed |
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> many users who think so and many of them claim to have left Gentoo |
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> because of that - which means there is something wrong with |
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> communication again. Why are Gentoo developers perceived as arrogant? |
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> Does the arrogant minority get more attention than decent majority? |
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> Why? |
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This is probably related to our main bugwrangler, as he's often the |
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first dev users interact with when they file a bug, and his comments |
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can sometimes be a bit offending (I'd attribute that to the stress |
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caused by dealing with all the incoming bug reports that are often of |
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poor quality). |
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Marius |
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