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On Thu, 2008-05-22 at 21:30 +0200, Luca Barbato wrote: |
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> William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: |
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> > On Thu, 2008-05-22 at 10:36 -0700, Chrissy Fullam wrote: |
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> >> How would Gentoo benefit from having non-developers (individuals as you put |
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> >> it) and businesses (you don't mention sponsors so I presume any business, |
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> >> say Intel) be allowed to become part of the foundation and have a vote? |
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> > By allowing the greater community to feel they are participating and |
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> > have a role in Gentoo. Not limiting the Gentoo community to just |
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> > developers. |
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> Why not? |
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> > Unless you or others feel we should ignore the community. |
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> Which community? |
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Just to be more specific and clear wrt to community. I as a developer, |
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not a Trustee. I get all kinds of help from the Gentoo community. |
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Patches, bug fixes, pointing out mistakes/errors, providing |
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improvements. It's invaluable, and at times more help than I get from |
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fellow Gentoo developers. Which I have a couple open bugs, I can't get |
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any devs to help me with. The recent ones I needed help on that are |
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closed, the community/users/contributors came through on. |
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For some reason it seems like what happens with adults forgetting they |
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were kids. Developers seem to forget we were once users. We might one |
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day return to being users. So should those that do not wield developer |
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status not matter? |
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Some of our longest contributing members to Gentoo Java, aren't devs, |
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nor will they ever be. They don't want to be. Some even have their own |
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overlays. So guess they should not have any say or input. |
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There should not be this elitism with a divide between developers, |
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users, contributors, sponsors, etc. We are all together the Gentoo |
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community. Which the foundation as I understand it, was intended from |
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it's inception to represent. |
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But the foundation has never been operated or run as intended. Or really |
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at all beyond 2005 it appears. Basic duties weren't getting done, much |
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less anything beyond that. |
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William L. Thomson Jr. |
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amd64/Java/Trustees |
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Gentoo Foundation |