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> I think the coop idea is a good thing and I think it may be something that |
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> Gentoo should take advantage of. However, I think Gentoo should be |
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> completely decoupled so that both organizations are able to decide freely |
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> for themselves what is best for each group. |
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> The coop is a brand new idea. Nobody has really done anything like it |
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> before, so it's likely to take a great deal of thought and effort to get set |
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> up correctly. I'd hate to see the Gentoo NFP efforts get delayed as a |
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> result. |
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> When the coop is finally set up and ready to go, each organization can look |
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> at the other, ensure they still share the same values and goals and then |
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> decide how best to partner at that point. |
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I agree with Kurt here. The coop idea seems intriguing, but without a lot more |
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research and planning, I really can't decide whether I'm totally for that yet. |
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I'm also with Kurt that this coop idea shouldn't slow down the NFP status |
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that Gentoo needs. I also agree that this entity should be separate from |
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Gentoo so they can have their own set of goals that won't clash with each |
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other constantly. |
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>>You will need to choose between an "open, participatory" (and |
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>>co-optable) and a "closed, non-co-optable" (and |
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>>non-representative/unfair) governing model. So let me know which you |
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>>prefer and I'll get it set up. The other alternative is to try to find |
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>>some kind of compromise, where the government for the not-for-profit |
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>>isn't too fair or open, but is more bureaucratic and harder to co-opt. Let |
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>>me know which one appeals to you. |
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> My personal $.02: |
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> I'd like to see a closed, non-co-optable model. Both models have their |
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> weaknesses, but I think the open one is more susceptible to groupthink, not |
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> to mention coersion. I think a closed model, combined with an active, vocal |
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> community (which Gentoo certainly has) allows for a solid feedback loop |
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> without running the risks of coersion. |
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> --kurt |
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I personally feel that the current model has been doing an adequate job of |
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leadership. I know its got its problems, but any setup has its own set of |
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problems. I'm with Kurt also that the coop table model could lead to coercion. |
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I like it now is, you work to earn your rank in Gentoo. I really don't like |
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the idea of buying your 'rank' to have a say in things. That just puts my |
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mentality as "Why should I be putting anything into this if its not going to |
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help me in the long run anyways?". Theres a level of trust and loyalty that we |
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have in our community that I love. I think most devs just want to do their |
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work and enjoy it while we do it. |
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