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From: Sven Vermeulen <swift@g.o>
Subject: Re: I met with my lawyer
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 09:33:13 +0200
On Sat, Apr 17, 2004 at 02:02:09AM +0200, Pieter Van den Abeele wrote:
> Do we have to trust the people you have made commitments to, and which 
> are going to be selected by gentoos sole FP entity (because that is the 
> only thing you have been doing lately)?
> I wouldn't want to be part of that NFP board, because people could say 
> that I'm one of guys you made a secret commitment with. 

I think this is being paranoid. Daniel's intention here is to make sure that
the creation of the NFP doesn't take too long so that people *see* that
advances are made. Using a preliminary board of trustees until everything
settles is frequently used. This is clearly mentioned:
  """
    This initial board of trustees will serve for one year from the 
    establishment of the Gentoo Foundation, after which point a the board will 
    be elected by the members (Gentoo developers.) After that, regular elections
    will be held (election cycle TBD) to determine board members.
  """

The wording Daniel used is a bit unthoughtful (the "meet my commitments to
existing managers and developers") and should probably be read as something
like:
  """
    There will be an initial board of trustees appointed which will guide the 
    NFP through its first year. To ease the transitioning, this board will
    consist out of (a subset of) the current "top level managers" and a few 
    other developers which have contributed significantly to Gentoo. Note
    that this board is initial and temporary and that elections will happen
    when the NFP transition is finished.
  """

Or something similar. Don't try and take each letter in a word and put it
upside down - we are not formally deriving a proof for a mathematical
theorem, we are dealing here with a big, large project filled with motivated
people who want to work on whatever they like without having to go through
too much hassle.

People never had or have issues with co?rdinators (or managers or whatever
you like to call them) as long as those people don't try to hide themselves
behind rules and regulations and pretend to be more than just a developer
interested in the co?rdination (and therefore future) of Gentoo.

I'm very disappointed with what I had to catch up on on -core. I'm glad that
positive results are being created *again* which is a good sign for the
healthiness of this project. All issues we might have had have been resolved
in the past and will be resolved in the future as well. 

Daniel: I agree with the spirit of your proposal. I don't personally care if
you have a "perpetual, non-exclusive, royalty-free use" of the "Gentoo"
trademark and "G" logo or a gentlemen's agreement. If you weren't trustworthy 
I would've left Gentoo a long time ago. In this sense I think the former is
a better agreement as "a gentlemen's agreement" will lead to discussions
again.

Wkr,
      Sven Vermeulen

-- 
 ^__^   And Larry saw that it was Good.
 (oo)                                      Sven Vermeulen
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References:
I met with my lawyer
-- Daniel Robbins
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