Gentoo Archives: gentoo-nfp

From: Luca Barbato <lu_zero@g.o>
To: James Laslavic <squarebottle@×××××.com>
Cc: gibbonsr-ml@××××××××××××××××××.com, gentoo-nfp@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-nfp] drobbins, leadership, etc.
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:28:54
Message-Id: 478E92E1.6050604@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-nfp] drobbins, leadership, etc. by James Laslavic
1 James Laslavic wrote:
2 > A lot of people are talking about how "There shouldn't just be one
3 > person!" Well, couple things.
4 >
5 > The biggest issue that these people have forgotten is that as it is
6 > right now, there is only one trustee. All the others have retired or
7 > been AWOL for a while now, and the same goes for the rest of the
8 > foundation, pretty much.
9 >
10 > And if being democratic is the big goal, then don't forget that the
11 > community overwhelmingly supports his return.
12 >
13 > If you want to create a system of checks and balances, then great! Bring
14 > your ideas to the table when we have enough people showing up to pass
15 > this kind of legislation! But right now, we've got to face the facts:
16 >
17 > 1) Things are not getting done.
18 > 2) Gentoo is losing developers.
19 > 3) Potential developers are choosing not to join.
20 > 4) The current Gentoo foundation has had several months to fix all the
21 > above.
22 > 5) Daniel Robbins offering to come back is not happening out of the blue
23 > because "he feels like he wants power," but is happening in response to
24 > the dire situation painted by the above issues.
25 >
26 > There are developers who want to see him return, and there are
27 > developers that don't. This is normal. However, take a look at the
28 > numbers. The people that stayed when he left will likely consist of
29 > people that don't want to see him return because, after all, the reason
30 > they didn't leave with him is because they weren't on his side then. As
31 > such, it's not really very representative of anything, as any pollster
32 > or statistician can tell you. When you look at the entire Gentoo
33 > community though including all the developers that left back then and
34 > all the developers that do not want to join the current Gentoo, it
35 > overwhelmingly supports Daniel Robbins' return.
36
37 I'm afraid you don't have way to back such bold claims.
38
39 point 1 to 3 and thus 5 are quite false and I have number to back my
40 claim (and since they are public in our website you have just to read
41 them), I have no idea about point 4.
42
43 Please give us a bit of trust. We _may_ know better.
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45 lu
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50 Luca Barbato
51 Gentoo Council Member
52 Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC
53 http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero
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