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On Fri, 2004-04-16 at 17:02, Pieter Van den Abeele wrote: |
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> Can those commitments be categorized as for profit? |
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> Do we have to trust the people you have made commitments to, and which |
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> are going to be selected by gentoos sole FP entity (because that is the |
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> only thing you have been doing lately)? |
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> I wouldn't want to be part of that NFP board, because people could say |
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> that I'm one of guys you made a secret commitment with. You are already |
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> saying that you made commitments with certain managers, I don't think |
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> it was smart for such a manager to engage in such a commitment, and |
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> especially not to insist on it being put into practice the way you are |
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> currently trying to implement the commitment. I would even go as far to |
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> claim that such a manager (who insists on implementing the commitment) |
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> is putting the establishment of a NFP entity at risk. |
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> As long as those commitments cannot be categorized as for profit, I |
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> would have no objection for such a gentoo member (who engaged in a |
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> commitment) to become part of the initial NFP board, a board whose |
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> responsibility would be, amongst others, to determine a policy on what |
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> FP entities are allowed to use the Gentoo trademarks. You have to |
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> realize that the very fact that I need to ask a FP entity (again, |
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> because that's the only thing you have been doing lately) this |
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> question, probably renders the situation more complicated than it |
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> needed to be, unfortunately. |
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Listen, I know I haven't exactly been the model of trust around Gentoo |
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lately. However, the note that Daniel sent to (-managers?) where he |
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said he and I have worked our misunderstandings out -- that's very true, |
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we have. It's a wonder what a little perception can lead to, when it |
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does not correspond to fact. |
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I know that I'd hurt Daniel with my accusations, as well. I do wish to |
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reiterate that Daniel *does* have the best intentions for Gentoo. |
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Sometimes, I know it doesn't look like he does, but that again is a |
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matter of perception. |
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Before we let the cabal-paranoia get ahead of us -- the commitment to |
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managers was made last year when the managers group was created |
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initially. It is probably somewhere in your mail archives (-managers |
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I'm guessing). Daniel stated then (and in private to me) that the board |
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of the then future NFP would consist of the managers in place at that |
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time. Since then, newer managers have come into the picture -- I'm not |
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clear how they will figure into the board. I do also recall that Daniel |
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had expressed a desire for some of the more senior (time-wise) devs to |
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be on the board, including aron and grant. So the commitment wasn't |
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made behind any backs, it was actually made to the parties involved |
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(you, me, kurt, joshua, paul, aron, grant, and I'm sure I'm missing a |
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couple of names). |
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Honestly, please give Daniel a chance at this without unduly suspecting |
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him. He's been the brunt of a lot of attacks lately, and that can't be |
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easy. He has definitely shown a commitment to making the NFP happen -- |
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that's a great thing. So let's help him make it happen :) |
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Thanks, |
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Seemant Kulleen |
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http://dev.gentoo.org/~seemant |
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