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----- "William L. Thomson Jr." <wltjr@g.o> wrote: |
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> Over the past several weeks, and possible months. The Gentoo |
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> Foundation |
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> board of trustees has been discussing a bit on IRC and in direct |
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> private |
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> emails, the available banking options for Gentoo. Starting with the |
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> more |
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> major institutions like Chase, Citi, Bank of America, and Wells Fargo. |
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> The first issue we ran into was that no one lives in New Mexico. Some |
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> banks require a branch be within 50 miles from registered address. |
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> Others any address in the same state. Neither of which was a major |
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> road |
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> block. Until both required that we physically go into a branch to |
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> sign |
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> papers and open an account. Being that no Officer lives in New |
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> Mexico. |
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> That is not a practical option. Which ruled out both Chase and Citi. |
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> Chase required 50 miles, Citi within the state. |
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> Now Bank of America seemed to be a viable options with their online |
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> application. But a call to Bank of America reveals a few things. |
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> First |
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> that the application process could not be fully completed online. |
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> Second |
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> that all officers would have to go into a branch to sign final paper |
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> work. Third, Bank of America California is on a different system than |
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> Bank of America in all other states. So if we needed to do anything |
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> in |
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> California, where the foundation treasurer currently resides. We |
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> could |
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> not. Bank of America really is not an option at all. |
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> So far Wells Fargo is the only bank that will allow us to open an |
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> account remotely. With no one going to New Mexico. Plus they have |
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> branches in other states. We could visit and use for any business, |
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> including changing signers or officers on the account. Not to mention |
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> Wells Fargo seems to be best positioned for accounts where one or |
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> more |
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> of the officers are not US Citizens. However Wells Fargo does require |
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> any international officers have a US Federal ITIN (International Tax |
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> ID |
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> Number ) and provide a photo ID, license or passport. |
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> Unfortunately our current president lacks a photo ID atm, ETA is like |
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> 6-8 weeks for that, 4-6 weeks for ITIN. Applications can overlap time |
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> wise. Or another direction, we can remove him as an officer, |
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> remaining |
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> as just a board member. Which board oversees officers. So just a |
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> paper |
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> change. |
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> We were proceeding with Wells Fargo. I had called them, provided |
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> Foundation and personal info to get the account application underway. |
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> Which it still is but will expire on the 8th. We have not committed |
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> to |
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> proceeding with Wells Fargo, and frankly seem to still be shopping |
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> around. |
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> Which is where we are at. We are opening this up to the community. |
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> Firstly for transparency. But secondly to get input and suggestions |
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> fro |
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> the community. Other banks we haven't tried etc. |
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> We did bring up and consider an international bank account outside US |
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> borders. But not sure how practical that will be. |
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> |
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> Also there are some issues with any bank account, and officer turn |
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> over. |
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> We would not only have to update filings with the state. But with the |
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> bank as well. Which might require two people to physically go into a |
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> location/branch. To prove they are the existing signer, and to pass |
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> on |
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> authority to another. |
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> |
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> So turn over wrt to the bank account is likely going to be a PITA. |
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> Thus |
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> something needs to be discuss, done, etc wrt to Officer terms. I |
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> think |
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> some of that might be in the new bylaws. If not, will likely have to |
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> add |
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> a revision soon. |
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> While several on the board felt this was a far off scenario. It looks |
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> like we have a current board member ( maybe two 2nd being me ) |
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> resigning. So this scenario of officer turn over, is not so unlikely |
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> or |
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> far off. |
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> |
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> Anyway that is were we are at. Really no where, other than ruling out |
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> options. We can proceed with Wells Fargo but there is work to be |
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> done. |
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> Much less time to obtain Photo ID and ITIN which we can't expedite. |
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> I am at like 10+ hours into this, and really almost at my max time |
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> wise. |
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> Before we must start showing some progress. Otherwise I consider the |
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> time a total waste. If the final goal is not accomplished. We have |
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> spun |
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> the tires, flung the mud, etc. Hopefully we will get it resolved |
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> sooner |
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> than later. |
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> We are pretty open at this time. What ever it takes, and with any |
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> bank. |
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> So long as we can get a bank account for Gentoo ASAP. No point in |
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> gathering or planning to spend $. If we have no where to store or |
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> distribute it. Can't even do much atm with PayPal till we get a bank |
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> account on file with them again. |
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> Really stuck, and if the community can help bail us out. That's what |
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> it's all about :) If not, guess we will have to bite the bullet with |
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> Wells Fargo and might have an account with them in a few months. |
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> William L. Thomson Jr. |
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> amd64/Java/Trustees |
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> Gentoo Foundation |
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Another option, that might be fit our role more is some direct or online |
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banking. ING.com is one of the biggest ones. Capital One is another one |
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but I don't care for them as a company .. personal preference. That |
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would get by the problem of having to be close by. |
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Ryan Gibbons |
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817.657.1780 |
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