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On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 7:42 PM, Roy Bamford wrote: |
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> On 2008.04.18 19:09, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: |
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> > From the previous mails, my understanding is that the point about |
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> > membership to the Foundation is not to be discussed on this meeting, |
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> > but on a later date. Am I correct? |
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> > Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto |
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> > Gentoo- forums/userrel/Sparc/KDE |
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> Jorge, |
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> The topic will not be avoided. I expect it to come up under the Bylaws |
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> section of the agenda but I doubt if any firm decisions will be made |
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> other than to 'fix the membership rules'. |
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That's what I thought. I'm sorry if my wording wasn't clear. |
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> My preference is to get a set of bylaws that the trustees can |
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> unanimously agree to adopt so we can move on. The bylaws can be fine |
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> tuned later. |
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> I have a vested interest in the definition of a "full developer" I want |
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> to propose something like "Gentoo developers become members of the |
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> Gentoo Foundation on the first anniversary of their join date, as held |
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> in the individuals LDAP record." That makes it nice and unambiguous |
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> for election officials. It also defines developers as anyone who has an |
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> LDAP record. |
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The 1 year membership always applied to "Gentoo dev" in its broadest |
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sense, thus ebuild devs and official Gentoo Staff. |
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> and "Foundation membership ceases at the close of the trustee election |
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> following the members retirement from the project." |
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> I don't want serving trustees retired unless they resign from the |
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> Foundation separately under its bylaws. |
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I'm very interested in the discussion on the Foundation membership and |
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retirement, but from your reply above, I'll let it be until a later |
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time. |
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> I did consider something to allow trustees to vote to extend membership |
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> but its not needed. Trustees can appoint officers, that's good enough |
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> (and less controversial). Anyone can be an officer. |
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> Its probably a controversial subject with opinions shaped by |
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> discussions on a mailing list rather than on IRC. |
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I see we're using the term officers with 2 very different meanings: |
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you're talking about officers as the "board of trustees", whilst I was |
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talking as officers as "election officers". My apologies for confusing |
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the meaning. |
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> I like the sound of your Gentoo elections project. Maybe the Foundation |
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> needs to appoint a team of returning officers, whose job would be just |
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> that. That's a little 'tongue in cheek' but not completely. It could be |
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> the first step in the Foundation actively taking on some of the non |
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> technical tasks presently managed by the council. That was one of the |
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> long term goals in my manifesto. |
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I think the Gentoo elections project would fall neatly under the |
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Foundation scope as it clearly isn't a technical project. Having |
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cleared the double meaning on "officers", I believe the election |
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project, as other gentoo projects, should conduct the selection of |
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members to serve as "election officers" - no need for the Foundation |
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to get directly involved. |
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> Regards, |
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> Roy Bamford |
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