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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o>
To: "William L. Thomson Jr." <wlt@××××××××××××××××.com>
Cc: gentoo-nfp@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Tax return and accounting discrepancies
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 19:23:41
Message-Id: AANLkTikjVaV3r_xqvxAUtVr1af+uwoehzHPR+tP5q=hk@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-nfp] Tax return and accounting discrepancies by "William L. Thomson Jr."
1 On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 3:06 PM, William L. Thomson Jr.
2 <wlt@××××××××××××××××.com> wrote:
3 > I am still quite concerned and would like to know a reason why the
4 > Gentoo Foundation has not filed a state of federal tax return. I am not
5 > sure when the last time the Gentoo Foundation did file any returns, or
6 > provided required annual accounting information to New Mexico.
7 >
8
9 Is there a clear statement somewhere of the actual legal requirements?
10 I'd recommend just having a simple webpage that lists each
11 requirement, and how it was met for auditing purposes - keep fluff to
12 a minimum.
13
14 Is there any controversy over the requirements, or is there a
15 consensus that we have a problem here?
16
17 > An almost $9k discrepancy where account balance has been off,
18 > unacceptable! That is really not good! Where did that money go? Did it
19 > exist in the first place? Does anybody have a clue?
20
21 Certainly interested in an answer to this. The way I read it was that
22 sometime in the past there was a problem and the correction just makes
23 the register reflect reality. That might not be something we can fix.
24
25 > Now here we are about 2.5yrs later, and still no tax return, and very
26 > shady accounting. It might be acceptable to others, but it surely is not
27 > to me. I hope Gentoo starts to keep an eye out if people have any
28 > qualifications for the roles and positions they fill. Given the amount
29 > of neglect, and lack of leadership all around.
30 >
31
32 Any suggestions as to solution? Hiring a CPA as a part-time treasurer
33 might be a solution - if we can afford it.
34
35 Not having time to submit a report is one problem. Issuing checks and
36 not recording it in the register is a different problem. The latter
37 is something we really can't accept. I'm not sure that is the actual
38 problem here.
39
40 The lack of reporting probably stems from one of a few possible causes:
41 1. There is not agreement the work needs to be done (perhaps rightly
42 or wrongly).
43 2. There is not a clear and agreed-upon owner for the task.
44 3. The owner has not carried out the task (which itself can have a
45 few root causes).
46
47 One thing we should strongly consider is that if we don't have time to
48 legally document an action, then we probably shouldn't perform the
49 action. If accepting a check involves 18 hours of paperwork, then we
50 might consider whether the check ought to be accepted at all. Also,
51 where possible we should do the paperwork first (update the total on
52 the reports, then accept the check). Kind of like stable the
53 dependencies before you stable the package. A report is easy at the
54 start of the reporting period - copy balance forward from last period,
55 activities are all zero, end balance is equal to start.
56
57 Might not hurt to use something like Google docs with backups to facilitate/etc.
58
59 Rich

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