Gentoo Archives: gentoo-nfp

From: Paul de Vrieze <pauldv@g.o>
To: gentoo-nfp@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Use of Name and Logo
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 08:31:39
Message-Id: 200409271031.29901.pauldv@gentoo.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-nfp] Use of Name and Logo by Donnie Berkholz
1 On Monday 27 September 2004 02:10, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
2 > Please read
3 > http://archives.gentoo.org/ml/gentoo-trustees/2004/09/msg_00022.xml and
4 > http://dev.gentoo.org/~swift/name_logo.html before the rest of this.
5 >
6 > What we're doing here is essentially licensing our trademark, based on
7 > various conditions. Therefore, this page _is_ a trademark license and
8 > needs all the things they need.
9 >
10 > Trademark law in the U.S. basically dictates that if others are using
11 > our trademark in our area, they need to be either licensed or
12 > cease-and-desisted shortly after we become aware of them. If we just
13 > ignore them, the trademark's considered abandoned and we lose its
14 > ownership.
15
16 I would like to add here that in any case the logo's are copyrighted and
17 so can not be forfeited (within 80 years). I believe they are also part
18 of the trademarks, but also fall under copyright protection.
19
20 > It may also be helpful to examine our trademark registration at
21 > http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=nnf8a6.3.1. The
22 > description limits us to computer software optimized and customized for
23 > particular applications, not computer software as a whole.
24 >
25 > As a result, we need to ensure that the quality of any licensees's
26 > products using the Gentoo name meet the same standards Gentoo's
27 > products do. Trademark licenses not including a quality-control
28 > provision are called naked licenses, and they are invalid and may
29 > result in the loss of our trademark rights. Not only is the QC
30 > provision needed, it also must be enforced.
31
32 Nice to know. I'm in favour of it in any case.
33
34 >
35 > The page should include a termination clause (e.g., "The Gentoo
36 > Foundation may revoke your license to use the Gentoo trademark at any
37 > time for any reason."). It should specify that the license is
38 > nonexclusive and nontransferable, and it should also say that after
39 > termination, any products must be either sold off within a reasonable
40 > time (say 60 days) or, if they fail to meet Gentoo quality standards,
41 > destroyed.
42 >
43 We should certainly add that.
44
45 > It should say the licensee must submit a sample to the Gentoo
46 > Foundation to satisfy the QC provision, and default to approval if no
47 > response is received within, say, 15 days. In addition, it may be
48 > useful to require additional samples over time.
49 >
50 > Thoughts? Discussion? Anyone still subscribed to this list?
51
52 15 days might be short, and I don't want to license by default in any
53 case. Maybe the 15 days approval could hold only for the sample
54 approvement, but only in the case of registered mail with delivery
55 notification (after delivery).
56 >
57 > Thanks,
58
59 Paul
60
61 --
62 Paul de Vrieze
63 Gentoo Developer
64 Mail: pauldv@g.o
65 Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net

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Re: [gentoo-nfp] Use of Name and Logo Donnie Berkholz <spyderous@g.o>