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On Thursday 14 September 2006 14:32, Grobian wrote: |
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> You know this is pretty not so true. We did a GWN message on it, and |
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> got a lot of shit on that back. |
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No, you got ciaranm yelling at you. I wouldn't consider that "a lot of shit", |
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especially considered that *I* was the one who should have handled him, as I |
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was, and still am, the Gentoo/Alt project lead. |
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> Also fellow developers, which I talked |
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> to (even gave a presentation on it) in Kranzberg and Brussels on Gentoo |
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> meetings never showed any interest nor excitement. |
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I know of at least a few fellow developers who were quite interested in it, |
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but didn't want it for Mac OS X, and they mostly thought prefix was supposed |
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to be just for that. |
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> Not to mention that basically everything/everyone |
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> that was involved in "it" died afterwards, left, or considers leaving |
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> pretty soon, feeling all got worse, instead of better. |
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I also told you that some issues should have handled by me solely. |
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Unfortunately it seemed to me that both you and Kito were scared by the |
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boogeyman, that you thought he could kill your project even when I was |
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appointed as Gentoo/Alt lead covering the empty seat and thus being the one |
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the boogeyman should have talked to. |
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And mind what? I didn't receive any complain directly, because it was more |
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effective to scare you guys off than trying to find a reason while being in |
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the wrong side of the discussion. |
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Maybe we didn't get much support in the past, but also the QA issues brought |
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on by solar was handled pretty quickly, without any problem, ending up |
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dissolving like a soap bubble. |
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I think the only thing that might resurrect Gentoo for Mac OS X, and Prefix |
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together, and Gentoo/Alt as a whole, is trying to do more public things. |
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Maybe we should find a developer to handle these things and blog about them |
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(exg, want to open one?) so that it gets more spot on. You told me before |
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that you wanted something usable to present before going public. Well, I |
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think you have something already, but it's not public yet. |
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I asked you a few times to help me with the GLEP, and you basically refused. |
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Of course even others refused, but they didn't have any interest in helping |
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me.. but I'm pretty sure that if anybody helped with that GLEP, they wouldn't |
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have found any way to hinder us on its process. But I was tired after that, |
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and I admit I simply given up soon about it, thinking of more direct impact. |
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Right now, with the new commitment of the council, I do want this to continue |
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and proceed. And I'm sorry, this will happen that you want it or not; we |
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might take another year before going usable, but I'm not afraid. In an year, |
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Gentoo/FreeBSD started from something almost unusable and entered the tree.. |
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helped mostly by a single developer that was just recruited... because I |
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wanted it and I wasn't scared by the boogeyman or by developers that didn't |
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like the project at first. |
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And now? There are UberLord and steev with Gentoo/FreeBSD installed, hanging |
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out on #gentoo-bsd and testing their own packages. |
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Sorry if you lost interest in Gentoo because of the devrel issue, but I'm |
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afraid that was just another mistake... |
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-- |
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Diego "Flameeyes" Pettenò - http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/ |
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Gentoo/Alt lead, Gentoo/FreeBSD, Video, AMD64, Sound, PAM, KDE |
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