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On Jul 30, 2005, at 23:34, Kito wrote: |
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> Just to be a semantic pain in the ass, / is an apple provided |
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> file... If you are worried about keeping a pristine OS X |
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> environment (read: still qualify as a 'supported configuration' for |
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> tech support, etc.) then installing portage on OS X in any of its |
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> current forms is not what you should be playing with. Portage |
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> installs files in /usr, /etc, /System and whereever else ebuild |
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> maintainers feel like putting stuff, , basically everywhere a 3rd |
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> party software vendor should never touch. A simple software update |
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> could kill your portage packages/config files... |
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I'll match your semantic-pain-in-the-ass and raise you a super-silly- |
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remark. '/' is not a file; it's a directory. :P |
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Seriously, though, I wouldn't say that installing/using Gentoo for |
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Mac OS X would void any support requests. All of your points stand, |
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but I just think that your 'semantics' are a bit harder than the |
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reality. :) |
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Opinions, and semantics. The message is the same, I think. |
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>> and the 'progressive' profile (a free-for-all overwrite-whatever- |
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>> you-want policy). |
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> the progressive profile is anything but a 'free-for-all'. Its |
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> primary purpose is setting up the environment required to build the |
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> Darwin OS. Nothing that gets installed in a default configuration |
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> will break OS X. I use what are arguably the most demanding apps |
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> available for OS X(shake, Logic Pro, Final Cut Pro, etc.), and have |
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> been for almost a year now without any ill side effects from using |
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> the progressive profile. |
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I didn't mean free-for-all in a negative way. What I meant is that, |
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by policy, there's nothing that the progressive profile must avoid |
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overwriting. If this policy needs to be updated, let me know. I'm |
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going to be writing up all the 'policy' that I know about so that we |
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can make this sort of thing public. Will post to this list later with |
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updates, hopefully. |
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>> In the future we will support installing everything to some |
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>> location, for example '/opt/gentoo', to provide the best of both |
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>> worlds. In the meanwhile, the default (collision-protect) profile |
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>> sounds like what you're after; Apple-provided files are not |
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>> allowed to be overwritten when this profile is in use (there is a |
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>> bug open on symlinks being overwritten, but that is being taken |
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>> care of and is a fairly isolated situation). |
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> I think Fink and/or DarwinPorts are more what hes after ;) |
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Blasphemer! ;) |
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You're probably right, though. It should be made clear at this point |
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that portage is _not_ a drop-in replacement for DarwinPorts or Fink. |
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I don't think this point is stressed enough, and many new users are |
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confused when they find this. I'm not sure exactly why they get this |
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impression to begin with, but hey I'm just a silly dev. |
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Hasan Khalil |
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eBuild and Porting Co-Lead |
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Gentoo for Mac OS X |
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