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On 14-09-2006 13:19:06 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: |
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> I htought about this a while before answering, because at first I wasn't |
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> really sure what to answer. |
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> On Monday 11 September 2006 21:50, Grobian wrote: |
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> > Is ppc-macos a phoenix, that reborns from its own ashes? Would be nice, |
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> > but I think not entirely. With the ppc-macos team going down from once |
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> > 17 to now 2 people, of which one actively supporting the main tree, and |
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> > that one person being me, I feel I'm done with it now. ppc-macos in the |
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> > tree as it is now is going to die, unless someone steps up to maintain |
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> > it. I personally, am done with it, in the form it is, which is more |
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> > trouble than happyness sometimes. |
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> I understand how you feel, this is not exactly a clean situation or an easy |
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> one. |
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> And I already told you before that this would happen whenever prefix would |
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> have been stable enough. Unfortunately you not only hidden prefix from most |
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> of the possible users/developers, but also never provided a status to the |
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> other fellow developers :/ |
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You know this is pretty not so true. We did a GWN message on it, and |
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got a lot of shit on that back. Also fellow developers, which I talked |
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to (even gave a presentation on it) in Kranzberg and Brussels on Gentoo |
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meetings never showed any interest nor excitement. Well, have to be |
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honest, one or two did, but not the kind of really getting the hands |
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dirty. |
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> > For me, the proof is there. It is "done". I greatly feel |
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> > innovations have no place within Gentoo, which is the biggest cause for |
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> > it's big decay. |
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> As I said, you've hidden it, you "stole" it from the eyes of who needed to |
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> know about it, and now you're stuck in having to bring it in again, slowly, |
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> so that it can become the norm. It is bureaucracy mostly? Yes. Could have |
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> been avoided? Unlikely. Could have been solved more easily? Sure. |
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You know pretty well how much I am put outside of the game. Though I |
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understand your opinion on this, my role in this case was clearly pretty |
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much done after "it". Not to mention that basically everything/everyone |
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that was involved in "it" died afterwards, left, or considers leaving |
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pretty soon, feeling all got worse, instead of better. |
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But, to try and get some of the positive stuff out of your email, I |
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consider posting something to -dev or -core. However, I'm all but |
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motivated to do this, as well as clueless how to put it down. Basically |
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I am not really waiting on the "yay let's finally remove the ppc-macos |
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keyword from the tree" fests. I guess they can also do that without me. |
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So maybe you have some ideas on that. Maybe off-list is better suited. |
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