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On Aug 16, 2005, at 1:14 AM, Stroller wrote: |
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> Sorry to come to this so late - I'm just back from holiday. |
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> On Aug 8, 2005, at 6:38 am, Kito wrote: |
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>> Maybe you misunderstood, what I think is futile is trying to avoid |
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>> overwriting files, and accommodating things portage has no |
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>> knowledge of or control over. |
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> Unless you avoid over-writing Mac OS's system files Gentoo-OSX will |
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> never become mainstream. I don't know if this is of interest to you |
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> or not, but I for one will never install Gentoo-OSX unless it |
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> installs safely into an /opt (or similar) directory - overwriting |
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> Apple's system files is _bound_ to break something eventually. |
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Yeah, again I'm not saying overwriting files is the way to go. I'm |
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not sure how much more clear I can be on that. I'm saying installing |
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things to / and trying to avoid overwriting files is not a good idea. |
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So, again, just to make sure I'm being understood, installing to an |
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alternate prefix, i.e. /gentoo, /usr/local, /opt, whatever, is the |
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way to go and make portage a viable tool for OS X users. As Finn |
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pointed out in earlier mails, not using a prefix like Fink and |
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DarwinPorts was never a strategic decision, but a practical one. Its |
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all that portage knew how to do. |
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Now, as far as portage having knowledge about what software is |
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installed...if it lived in its own prefix, that wouldn't be an issue, |
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as all package dependencies would be handled and installed by |
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portage, avoiding linking against OS X system libs as much as |
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possible. This would make it possible for instance to have /gentoo on |
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say an external drive that could be mounted and used on virtually any |
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Mac OSX system, regardless of system updates, etc. |
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That being said, I feel like the name for such a tool shouldn't be |
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called 'Gentoo for OS X', as thats a very misleading name which seems |
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to cause a lot of confusion amongst users and developers alike. A |
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much more apt title IMHO would be 'Portage for Mac OS X', and leave |
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the title 'Gentoo for Mac OS X' for the profiles that actually manage |
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system files. |
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--Kito |
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> Stroller. |
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