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> The problem is happening for real at http://bugs.gentoo.org/ |
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> show_bug.cgi?id=87758 |
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> there baselayout is necessary. However, baselayout is only pulled |
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> in the initial "emerge system" if you use ACCEPT_KEYWORD="~ppc- |
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> macos". Hence, I can't compile, because QTDIR is not set for me, |
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> while someone having a complete ~ppc-macos system can. Portage |
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> won't pull the dependency of baselayout for a reason I think, but |
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> the particular problem sheds this light on the whole problem of how |
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> to test what on which system. |
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This is basically the basis of Hasan and my proposal to drop stable |
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support for ppc-macos. The reason "emerge system" pulls in different |
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packages dependent on whether you are running ~ppc-macos or ppc-macos |
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is that baselayout-darwin and coreutils-darwin are not yet ready for |
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stable. What I mean by this is that they haven't been sufficiently |
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tested and may still change significantly. |
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The crux of the issue here is that we are only really pretending to |
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have stable support. We all agree that there are "stable" packages |
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that don't work. This is not "stable", and imho we shouldn't pretend |
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to have stable support when we really don't. Additionally, I think QA |
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would improve drastically if all developers could work on the same |
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system setup and expect users to have the same system setup. |
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Once we have the manpower and a less dynamic setup (right now our |
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profiles change frequently, we are toying with the prefixed-install |
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idea, baselayout and coreutils are changing) we definitely should |
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support stable. Until then I think it is just a misnomer that should |
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be dropped. |
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> I still think that I either shouldn't have been able to emerge QT |
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> or that "emerge system" should provide the same base for {,~}ppc- |
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> macos, since portage doesn't pull these packages because they are |
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> never depended on. |
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If we only had ~ppc-macos, this would have never happened, nor would |
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the bug on mediawiki. |
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> I think you cannot sell a WONTFIX/REJECTED/INVALID to a user that |
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> emerged unstable QT and doxygen on a stable profile. But people |
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> may disagree with me here. |
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You probably could, but I agree that this is not a nice solution. |
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- --Lina Pezzella |
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Ebuild & Porting Co-Lead |
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