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On Aug 9, 2005, at 2:36 AM, Grobian wrote: |
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> Kito! Think Different(tm)! :) |
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> Just my two newbee cents: |
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> 1) I've heard this too many times now I guess, so I think it would |
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> be a |
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> Good Thing(tm) if Pieter -- assuming you all speak the truth and |
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> he's gone |
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> for good, or near to it -- would resign from his "lead" job. A |
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> king in |
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> another country is of no use, as he cannot reasonably know what his |
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> citizen need. |
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I agree, I was just pointing out that it needs to be dealt with |
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before any changes happen. |
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> 2) Every country, how small it may be, needs a king! Why? Doesn't |
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> that |
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> sound rediculous for only 4 people? Why do you think the Dutch |
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> (me) have |
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> a Queen? The Ustated Nights are approx. a million times bigger, |
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> and still |
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> we have one. Why? Because that's the person to pick when you want to |
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> have some official contact to the group. Or the country. It's more a |
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> symbolic task, especially in this small group, but good for the |
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> image to |
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> the outside. A group without a leader is by definition an unorganised |
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> bunch of eh... hackers. |
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I <3 your analogies ;) |
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Again, agreed! I'm not saying we don't need a leader in place, I'm |
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saying we don't need another leader in name only...IMHO the ideal |
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situation is a current Gentoo dev-team leader who would be interested |
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in migrating to OS X. |
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> It's all about perception, if you look professional, people think |
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> you are. |
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> Given the fact ppc-macos is considered to be the pain in the place |
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> where |
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> the sun don't shine, I think we would benefit from an organised (and |
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> professional) look. New faces, new attitutes, new contacts. Damn, it |
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> looks like I'm giving a marketing course here. Welcome to the |
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> world of a |
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> Business Information Systems guy! |
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Its not *all* about perception... lots of PR,hype, and empty titles |
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without alot of code to back it up is one of the things that got us |
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in trouble in the first place. |
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> So, Lina and Hasan, I think what you want to do is a (c)Good Start |
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> (tm)(r).nl |
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> On Tue, August 9, 2005 02:16, Kito wrote: |
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>> On Aug 8, 2005, at 6:36 PM, Hasan Khalil wrote: |
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>>> We would like to hold an election for the positions that we have |
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>>> been more-or-less filling unofficially, as the new metastructure |
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>>> suggests. We would like to be candidates for Operation Lead (Lina) |
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>>> and Strategic Lead (Hasan). |
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>> I was wondering how long it was going to take you guys.... |
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>> Who gets to vote in this election? |
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>> Shouldn't the entire Gentoo dev team have some input? |
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>> Shouldn't this wait until after the council elections are finished? |
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>> What will change once you two have been elected? |
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>> You should also probably address the fact that there is still a |
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>> strategic lead in place (pvdabeel) before deciding amongst |
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>> yourselves to hold an election... |
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>> I know titles can be fun and addictive, but I'm not sure declaring an |
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>> election to lead a team of 4 people, when 2 of them are basically |
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>> jointly running, is the Right Thing(tm) at this point in time... yes |
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>> the project needs leadership but this smells a little funny. |
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>> --Kito |
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