Re: [gentoo-osx] Re: sys-apps/findutils (GNU)

[Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò]

On Sunday 06 November 2005 21:10, Grobian wrote:
> My opinion actually was to just let it be ~ppc-macos, since there are no
> known problems with the OS provided find and xargs.  When we have a
> prefix, we can just install the normal GNU find and xargs (without g
> prefix) and have maximum compatibility with the other arches on that point.
I think you shouldn't install it non-prefixed.
Reasoning? You change the expected environment for also Portage, that 
currently uses GNU userland to identify find and xargs commandline.

The tree is already safe for find and xargs syntax, and there are no big deal 
in using GNU's or BSD's find and xargs to ebuilds.
There are for users, tho, but letting them use GNU find without knowing is, 
IMHO, an error.
Allowing an user to select gfind explicitely is another story.

For what it's worth, the userland-gnu ebuild installs /usr/libexec/gnu links 
for GNU tools, also cp, mv, make, find and so on. Putting that in $PATH 
allows users to have interactive shells using GNU userland without having to 
do hacks around.


Remember that compatibility is *not* only with Gentoo Linux, we should try to 
minimize the difference between Gentoo/ALT projects, too.
If you start shipping in prefixes the GNU tools, people would start telling 
other Gentoo/ALT ports to do so, and I for one don't want that, as I'd rather 
see Gentoo/*BSD ports to use their own userland where applicable.
For design decisions, such as "should we use the default or not", gentoo-alt 
is the place, don't take one-sided decisions or you'll repeat the errors for 
which many devs blames the Gentoo for Mac OSX project and Gentoo/ALT project 
entirely.

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Diego "Flameeyes" Pettenò - http://dev.gentoo.org/~flameeyes/
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