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On Sat, 1 Oct 2005, Sylvain OBEGI wrote: |
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> Hello, I've been following the Gentoo OS/X project for quite some time, |
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> but I've been lagging behind in the mailing list reading process until |
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> now. Just to give my 2 cents in a few sentences, it seems lots of |
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> efforts have been put recently in some political discussions which |
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> unfortunatly were aborted before reaching a final (constructive) |
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> decision (couldn't even find some proposed drafts), that's too bad for a |
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> project which seems very interesting. |
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The leadership discussion is ongoing under the auspices of gentoo-alt, and |
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its ML. |
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> Here is what I think about the project as an external user (take it or |
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> leave it, I don't hold the Truth(TM) anyway) : well... actually the |
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> thing is I'm not really a user of gentoo os/x, I mean I've had portage |
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> installed virtually since the beginning of gentoo os/x, but never used |
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> it, the main reason being that what I'd like to use isn't working |
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> (mostly mc and kde --konqeror & kate--), and the second one being that.. |
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> well, I don't even know what is actually working and so worth trying. I |
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> think that apart from some manpower and will to test and fix packages, |
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> what could be useful is some "real (power user) use cases". I mean, it |
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> would be nice to know that the project is actually useful to someone, |
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> how and what it is used for, so at least simple user like me would now |
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> that we could use it for that particular purpose, even if it's a niche, |
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> because then, we could extend little by little the tested/working |
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> software. |
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As I see it, the project is (technically) between a rock and a hard place: |
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Gentoo/Darwin and Gentoo/OS X. Portage is great for the former (but there |
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isn't much demand), while Portage is not great for the latter (but there |
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is great demand for prefixed (aka offset) installs, e.g. fink). |
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> In short, more visibility would be nice IMHO. Talking about visibility, |
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> is the os/x port doc linked from somewhere on the gentoo.org site? I |
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> could only find it via google, but it may be because it's almort 2 in |
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> the morning. |
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There is some more info at www.gentoo.org -> projects -> gentoo-alt -> |
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subprojects -> macos. |
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> Now, about KDE, has anyone made any work in trying to have a functionnal |
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> version for OS/X, either with QT/Mac or (more probably) X11? Fink does |
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> it (see http://ranger.befunk.com/blog/), so I guess theorically Gentoo |
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> OS/X could, too. If anyone needs a tester for that... |
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I gather that qt works under ~ppc-macos... maybe you should try to build |
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some of the other deps as well. |
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-f |
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> Last, is osx@g.o going to someone? if not, could you look at bug |
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> 65748 as it's wrongly attributed to Gentoo Linux instead of Darwin/OS X. |
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> Thanks to all for the efforts you put in trying to give OS X a little more |
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> freedom and more choices. |
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> Best regards, |
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