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From: "P. A. A." <adijedi@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-osx@l.g.o
Subject: also ddd Re: [gentoo-osx] Current status
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 18:14:10
Message-Id: c3c54fa6b2a4e506f608dab943d6d01e@mac.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-osx] Current status by Finn Thain
1 also, I should not that using the keywords "ppc-macos ~ppc-macos ppc" ,
2 the wonderful tool 'ddd' installed flawlessly :)
3
4 Cheerd,
5 Patrick
6
7
8 On Jul 31, 2005, at 2:29 AM, Finn Thain wrote:
9
10 >
11 >
12 > On Sat, 30 Jul 2005, Kito wrote:
13 >
14 >>
15 >> On Jul 30, 2005, at 8:12 PM, Hasan Khalil wrote:
16 >>
17 >>> As of yet, portage is not suited for what we have now termed
18 >>> 'pathspec', or
19 >>> 'installing to an alternate prefix', or 'using portage as a
20 >>> secondary package
21 >>> manager', etc. Changes are being made to portage that will allow for
22 >>> features
23 >>> like this, and should be included in the next major release (some
24 >>> months away
25 >>> still).
26 >>>
27 >>
28 > [snip]
29 >
30 >> The main problem as I see it, is you have a live tree of some
31 >> ~10,000 linux based packages, with a userbase of >100,000 LINUX
32 >> users, a
33 >> dev team of >350 linux developers...how on earth do you convince these
34 >> linux users and devs that a massively huge project like supporting
35 >> arbitrary install prefixes is worth the trouble, especially when it
36 >> would mostly benefit a sideproject with 3 devs and probably only
37 >> slighty
38 >> more users?
39 >
40 > Remember that for some of us, it doesn't matter if no more than a tiny
41 > fraction of ebuilds work. One should not confuse Gentoo (i.e. the
42 > portage
43 > tree) with Portage itself. Non-Gentoo developers, distros and O/S's can
44 > benefit from a portable portage, even if it comes with an empty portage
45 > tree. By "portable portage", I mean that it would support new ebuilds
46 > that
47 > will play nicely on arbitrary host.
48 >
49 > But the question remains, how to bring the existing ebuilds along for
50 > the
51 > ride? Kito is right that most linux devs aren't going to care too much.
52 > Most of them are not in a position to test their ebuilds on half a
53 > dozen
54 > different platforms. But then, they don't all test on half a dozen
55 > different linux architectures anyway.
56 >
57 > Hasan, you mentioned pathspec and prefixed installs, and future portage
58 > features to accomodate these. Is there more information available
59 > anywhere
60 > on the portage roadmap and the particular future portage features you
61 > are
62 > referring to?
63 >
64 > -f
65 > --
66 > gentoo-osx@g.o mailing list
67 >
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