Kito wrote:
> Right, but the libs that are 64-Bit aware should be enough to bootstrap 
> for a 64-Bit target.

Agreed.

>> One way to do it, would be to create a installer with "fat" libraries, 
>> and set the -arch cflags correctly (specifying multiple ones makes fat 
>> files) during the bootstrap process.  This might not be what an 
>> advanced user wants, but pretty ok for a regular user.
> 
> I've thought about this a lot, and I always come back with the feeling 
> that fat (or 'universal' if you like marketing terms) binaries don't 
> really have a place in portage. Ideally we wouldn't ship anything in an 
> installer that portage doesn't know how to build itself... which would 
> mean another keyword (ppc64-macos) and profile ( 
> default-darwin/macos/10.4/{x86,x86_64(?),ppc,ppc64} ).

I can live with that.  In the end I wouldn't want the ppc and i386 stuff 
on my machine if I don't want to use it.

>> So last way to do it is just to keep it unofficial.  That is for 
>> example if I put the 64-bits installer on my website, and give no 
>> support + a lot of warnings.  An emerge info then would immediately 
>> reveal a 64-bits savvy user.
> 
> I guess I don't follow how you would do this in a pkg installer without 
> having a valid profile and keyword. We have the overlay now, so you 
> could keep the profile there without polluting mainline tree.

For the moment, I won't be doing anything on it :)  But I still think 
there is nothing necessary (yet) to do it.

> All that being said, ppc64/darwin is already an extinct species, despite 
> the fact it never really got started, so I'm not sure how much work 
> you'd want to put in to this in the long term...

"64-bits, because I'm worth it" :p
I think this whole idea is not of any interest for the moment.  It's 
much more important that the infrastructure for a 'normal' Portage on 
OSX gets there.  (And if I understood correctly, it's underway.)

>> well, this is all just dreaming anyway for now.
> 
> And what is life without dreams...

boring!


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