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On 11-09-2006 15:22:03 -0600, Nathan wrote: |
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> On 9/11/06, Grobian <grobian@g.o> wrote: |
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> >ppc-macos is dead, long live ppc-macos |
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> Er, could you summarize what that means for those of us that have been |
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> waiting to use Gentoo as a fink or darwinports/macports replacement |
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> since 2004? Is the project shutting down, or just some part of it? |
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> Just a bit confused, I thought that some prefixed-progress was finally |
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> being made. |
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It means that what's in the Gentoo tree now, which was already |
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deprecated for ages (there isn't even an official installer) is dead. |
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At least from my point of view it is. The prefix stuff, at least on |
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OSX/PPC is usable enough to be a replacement for that. |
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> Now I'm doubly confused, since you're saying stuff is working. What |
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> is dead and what isn't??? |
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I think my previous reply explains that. |
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> >Personally, I'm fed up with the whole Gentoo system, and the heavy doors |
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> >you can only slightly open with the most efforts. Kito being mia, also |
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> >means one of the biggest driving forces behind prefixed portage being |
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> >gone. Exg is busy, which leaves me, not knowledgable enough for most of |
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> >the stuff I've done here to get it working. I won't really be surprised |
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> >if it's done not entirely correct, but so it is. I'm not going to pull |
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> >the prefix car, write the glep and try to get it accepted by the rest. |
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> What about the "gentoo system" are you fed up with? Are you talking |
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> about the community system? Other than your metaphor of heavy doors, |
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> the rest of your paragraph just points out that you are doing stuff |
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> all alone. I'd be happy to help test ebuilds and stuff, once there's |
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> some beta-quality system to test them with. |
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It's not that people didn't want to help out. It's just that we (I?) |
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need developer help. And also "acceptance" from the Gentoo developer |
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community. Ideally, we would get prefix support in the main tree, with |
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all current arches using PREFIX="", while we would be the only ones |
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using PREFIX="/somewhere/else/". As I feel right now, I'm not even |
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going to try to suggest this to the community. |
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> There's no sync mechanism for the prefix tree? That doesn't sound |
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> very...usable. |
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I'll try and see what infra can and will do for us. |
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> Is this the "heavy door" you were referring to earlier? |
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Getting infra to do this for us, is part of this heavy door. |
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> Is there anything I can help with? I'm sick of waiting, but I only |
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> have superficial experience with toolchain-related issues and the |
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> inner workings of portage itself. So I've waited...and waited...and |
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> waited...and waited...and waited...and waited...and waited...and |
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> waited...and waited...and waited...and waited...and waited...and |
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> waited...and waited...and waited...and waited...and waited...and |
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> waited...and waited...and waited...and waited...and waited...and |
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> waited...and waited...and waited... |
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Yes, test, test, test. Try to bootstrap a prefixed system, ask for help |
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here, get it running, report which packages miss, which onces are |
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outdated, etc. |
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Fabian Groffen |
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Gentoo for Mac OS X Project |
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