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> > > Besides, I am more a fan of icon list views or OpenStep like multi-column |
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> > > lists, instead of table based lists... |
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> > I like the Finder giving you three views on the same data. For every |
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> > occasion it's own view ;) |
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> Which doesn't really help if you want to be GNUstep compatible. From what |
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> I know, on compatibility mode you are stuck with things like GNUstep |
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> Workspace.app. |
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> BTW, I believe finder is not written in ObjectiveC, so I am not quite sure |
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> if multi-mode lists are possible in Cocoa / OpenStep at all. |
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Hmmm... Not sure. I haven't toyed around with ProjectBuilder long |
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enough to know what you can do. |
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> > Why is a prefixed hierarchy (like Fink's /sw) not an option for you? |
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> > What is different in there from installing into /usr/local or /gnu? |
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> I think prefixed hierarchies make the system unclean. It is one thing if I |
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> decide to install modules into such a hierarchy in order to get |
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> interesting other modules compiled. |
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> It is a whole another thing if I want to let automated tools untidy my |
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> system ;) |
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So, what are your thoughts on using a Framework, like Apple does for |
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Java and Python for instance? |
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> I would think a working ObjectiveC compiler is a prerequisite for |
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> compiling gnustep. |
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> So perhaps gnustep-libs (or a meta package which could be solved by |
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> gnustep-libs-devel or cocoa libs) would be the correct dependency? |
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The gnustep ebuilds check if the compiler was built with the objc |
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USE-flag. This probably fails on OSX, since no compiler is built at all |
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currently. |
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> > > Good question, but something I cannot answer. My Python knowledge is |
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> > > nearly zero. |
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> > Same here. And I'm not enough attracted to the appearance of the |
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> > language to actually try and learn it. I can understand it, that's all. |
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> I don't really like the language either, but the possibility to write an |
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> portable application without either having to delve into proprietary XCode |
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> stuff, or into GNUmake build system hell, it becomes rather attractive. |
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> Its all a question of a comfortable tool chain... |
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Ehm... This might sound like blasphemy to some, but what about Java? |
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If cross-platformability is the only concern here, then Java does an |
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outstanding job, and has a very nice integration with the OSX interface. |
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Xcode/ProjectBuilder can even generate some sort of native compile of |
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Jaba code with UI widgets, which would probably allow it to speed up a |
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bit, while not entirely getting OSX only. Window manager would not be |
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an issue any more, and even Gentoo/Cygwin could benefit from it out of |
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the box. |
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In GUI's I'm not an expert, but for the rest of Java, I can handle it |
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fairly well. |
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Ok, no Java/Python/C flames here. Just practical comments please. |
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Fabian Groffen |
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Gentoo for Mac OS X Project -- Interim Lead |
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Sun Certified Programmer for the Java 2 Platform 1.4 |
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