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From: dirk.schoenberger@×××××××××.de
To: gentoo-osx@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-osx] Followup to: The road ahead?
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 15:01:46
Message-Id: 63166.84.179.21.170.1133103572.squirrel@mail.sz-online.de
1 > > What I miss on Mac is something like IrfanView's (on Windows) batch
2 > > conversion GUI.
3
4 > Ok. Question then is how Gentoo specific this is. Such application
5 > would more or less sound like something which has it's own ebuild and
6 > depends on imagemagick.
7
8 I would not call a 100 line Python script or such an application...
9 But at least the ImageMagick wrapper is currently just creative thinking,
10 so there is not
11 really something to talk about.
12
13 > > In fact more something like that ;)
14 http://www.gnomejournal.org/images/45.png
15
16 > Ah... (a lot) like SoftwareUpdate, or a tiny little bit like MS Windows
17 Update.
18
19 Yes, SoftwareUpdate (I was not quite sure about the name of the app, on my
20 German system it is "Software Aktualisierung"
21
22 > > Besides, I am more a fan of icon list views or OpenStep like multi-column
23 > > lists, instead of table based lists...
24 > I like the Finder giving you three views on the same data. For every
25 > occasion it's own view ;)
26
27 Which doesn't really help if you want to be GNUstep compatible. From what
28 I know, on compatibility mode you are stuck with things like GNUstep
29 Workspace.app.
30 BTW, I believe finder is not written in ObjectiveC, so I am not quite sure
31 if multi-mode lists are possible in Cocoa / OpenStep at all.
32
33 > Why is a prefixed hierarchy (like Fink's /sw) not an option for you?
34 > What is different in there from installing into /usr/local or /gnu?
35
36 I think prefixed hierarchies make the system unclean. It is one thing if I
37 decide to install modules into such a hierarchy in order to get
38 interesting other modules compiled.
39 It is a whole another thing if I want to let automated tools untidy my
40 system ;)
41
42 > > I would much prefer to be able to use a package.provided ObjectiveC
43 > > compiler...
44
45 > You already have one. But Linux users by default don't.
46
47 I would think a working ObjectiveC compiler is a prerequisite for
48 compiling gnustep.
49 So perhaps gnustep-libs (or a meta package which could be solved by
50 gnustep-libs-devel or cocoa libs) would be the correct dependency?
51
52 > > Good question, but something I cannot answer. My Python knowledge is
53 > > nearly zero.
54
55 > Same here. And I'm not enough attracted to the appearance of the
56 > language to actually try and learn it. I can understand it, that's all.
57
58 I don't really like the language either, but the possibility to write an
59 portable application without either having to delve into proprietary XCode
60 stuff, or into GNUmake build system hell, it becomes rather attractive.
61 Its all a question of a comfortable tool chain...
62
63 > I follow your reasoning, and agree with it. I personally think this is
64 > not very important to have right now, so if nobody feels like doing it
65 > yet, nobody has to put efforts in it. Getting the Portage API would be
66 > nice too, so we can wait I think.
67
68 Agreed.
69
70 Regards
71 Dirk
72
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