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From: Grobian <grobian@g.o>
Subject: on stable and unstable ppc-macos
Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 10:14:36 +0200
 From a freshly reported bug:

Reproducible: Always
Steps to Reproduce:
1. Install gentoo for OSX and not be perfectly comfortable you did it right.
2. Add ~ppc-macos to the keywords for the mediawiki-1.4.9.ebuild.
3. ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~ppc-macos" emerge mediawiki

Here is where I want the discussion to start.  I myself would have done 
it exact the same way, and I see it happen a lot.  In fact, I even think 
this is the way the Gentoo docs advocate the use of ~arch.

What's wrong with it?

In a recent discussion I found out this is, however, not the way some 
other people see the use of ~arch.  Instead they assume your whole 
system is ~arch.

This very bug reported might be fixed if the whole system would be 
~ppc-macos, however, the user doesn't want that.  Instead, the user 
wants to use an unstable package, to have a very isolated case, where an 
unstable package lives as a stable one.  As far as I know, this is the 
whole thing on Portage.  It allows you to do this, and it enables you to 
do this, and it even facilitates you to do this more automated, for 
instance via package.keywords.

My opinion here is that there is something wrong if portage isn't able 
to tell what it needs to run a package in ~ppc-macos.  Maybe this is not 
easily fixable, and should we do some extra hacks to make the two worlds 
play nice again.  However, I don't think having a fully ~arch system is 
equal to a user that runs a stable system and wants to grab one package 
from the unstable branch.  I consider the first case to be 'progressive' 
(not in the ppc-macos sense) or 'bleeding edge' while the latter case is 
more realistic and what happens in real life: 'controlled risk'.

I like to straighten out this issue, so everyone knows what should be 
done or not be done.  I just assumed the only vision I knew was what 
everyone has in mind, and this appears not to be like this.  I think 
it's directly related to QA and I feel my actions largely depend on it. 
  So, until I know what I'm doing is right or wrong, I won't do anything.

Fabian Groffen
Gentoo for Mac OS X
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Re: on stable and unstable ppc-macos
-- Hasan Khalil
Re: on stable and unstable ppc-macos
-- Nick Dimiduk
Re: on stable and unstable ppc-macos
-- Finn Thain
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