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From: Finn Thain <fthain@...>
Subject: Re: On keywording ppc-macos
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 00:57:51 +1000 (EST)
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Kito wrote:

> 
> On Aug 24, 2005, at 3:51 AM, Finn Thain wrote:
> 
> >
> >On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Finn Thain wrote:
> >
> > >On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Kito wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >On Aug 23, 2005, at 12:30 PM, Grobian wrote:
> > > >
> > > >On a somewhat related note, we need to decide sooner than later on 
> > > >how distinguish between the collision-protect and 
> > > >non-collision-protected profiles in ebuilds, as some things that 
> > > >are getting in the tree break with a proper gentoo environment, 
> > > >mostly auto{conf,make} issues at the moment (-a -c -f stuff, etc) , 
> > > >as well as python issues creeping up as well, but this will 
> > > >probably get more convoluted very shortly...
> >
> >[snip]
> > >
> > >Now, if an ebuild needs to know that it has "2nd class" status, 
> > >wouldn't a use flag be appropriate? And if you were to implement such 
> > >a use flag, could it not be useful to other second-class citizens? 
> > >For example, in "portage for non-Gentoo Linux" or "portage for 
> > >solaris" profiles.
> >
> >Actually, such a use flag is probably redundant. Isn't that what the 
> >the "macos" in "ppc-macos" is for?
> 
> Well, thats part of the problem. As Darwin is not self-hosting 
> currently, it requires a highly modified OS X environment(read: 
> progressive profile) to built it, and the progressive profile shares the 
> same keyword, *-macos, with the collision-protected profile. Another 
> keyword isn't really feasible, I was thinking more along the lines of a 
> variable added to the use-expand list in the profiles.

I just read http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=82513

What did happen to GLEP 22?

I have to say, I find the idea of over-loading the collision-protect hack 
with new macos-specific meaning inside N different ebuilds (by FEATURES 
expansion) quite unpleasant.

To my mind, progressive implies keyword=ppc-darwin/ppc-od, and "2nd class" 
implies ppc-macos and that implies a prefix (substitute x86 or x64 for ppc 
as you see fit).

I don't think it likely that apple will open source Mac OS X (or eleven, 
or even system seven). I mean, is it likely that a macos profile could 
ever be anything but second fiddle?

-f

> 
> >
> >I suspect the whole question goes away when portage gets prefixes. So my
> >post was probably just noise. Sorry.
> >
> >-f
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