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On 9/11/06, Grobian <grobian@g.o> wrote: |
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> ppc-macos is dead, long live ppc-macos |
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> Is ppc-macos a phoenix, that reborns from its own ashes? Would be nice, |
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> but I think not entirely. With the ppc-macos team going down from once |
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> 17 to now 2 people, of which one actively supporting the main tree, and |
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> that one person being me, I feel I'm done with it now. ppc-macos in the |
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> tree as it is now is going to die, unless someone steps up to maintain |
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> it. I personally, am done with it, in the form it is, which is more |
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> trouble than happyness sometimes. |
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Er, could you summarize what that means for those of us that have been |
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waiting to use Gentoo as a fink or darwinports/macports replacement |
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since 2004? Is the project shutting down, or just some part of it? |
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Just a bit confused, I thought that some prefixed-progress was finally |
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being made. |
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> What drove me to that descision? The new council? Not really. What |
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> really drove me there is the existence of a prefixed portage, and a tree |
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> where I have Vim and Mutt, as most important proofs of concept. |
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> Unfortunately the amd64 variant of the prefix isn't entirely working |
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> yet, with many linker problems, but for OSX it seems to work fine. |
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> Actually, it seems to work better. And I'm quite happy with it like |
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> this. |
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Now I'm doubly confused, since you're saying stuff is working. What |
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is dead and what isn't??? |
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> Personally, I'm fed up with the whole Gentoo system, and the heavy doors |
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> you can only slightly open with the most efforts. Kito being mia, also |
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> means one of the biggest driving forces behind prefixed portage being |
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> gone. Exg is busy, which leaves me, not knowledgable enough for most of |
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> the stuff I've done here to get it working. I won't really be surprised |
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> if it's done not entirely correct, but so it is. I'm not going to pull |
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> the prefix car, write the glep and try to get it accepted by the rest. |
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What about the "gentoo system" are you fed up with? Are you talking |
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about the community system? Other than your metaphor of heavy doors, |
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the rest of your paragraph just points out that you are doing stuff |
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all alone. I'd be happy to help test ebuilds and stuff, once there's |
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some beta-quality system to test them with. |
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> I know prefix is working now. I use it in the situations where I wanted |
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> to have it. I know there will be people completely killing it. I hope |
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> there will be people that would like to have it, and see something in |
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> it. For me, the proof is there. It is "done". I greatly feel |
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> innovations have no place within Gentoo, which is the biggest cause for |
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> it's big decay. We should have a "sync mechanism" for our prefix tree. |
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> I feel stuck, and in the mudd, I've come far enough to know I was right. |
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> This is not exactly my resignition lettre. Officially I shouldn't |
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> exist, even. I just want to tell that I've finally given up on |
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> ppc-macos in the main tree as it is. I don't need it any more. |
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There's no sync mechanism for the prefix tree? That doesn't sound |
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very...usable. Is this the "heavy door" you were referring to |
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earlier? |
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> Maybe someone should send this to gentoo-dev even... not sure. |
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Beats me. |
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Is there anything I can help with? I'm sick of waiting, but I only |
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have superficial experience with toolchain-related issues and the |
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inner workings of portage itself. So I've waited...and waited...and |
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waited...and waited...and waited...and waited...and waited...and |
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waited...and waited...and waited...and waited...and waited...and |
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waited...and waited...and waited...and waited...and waited...and |
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waited...and waited...and waited...and waited...and waited...and |
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waited...and waited...and waited... |
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~ Nathan |
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