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From: Nathan <nathan.stocks@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-osx@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-osx] New document: Project targets
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:21:59
Message-Id: 96c9d6a80512121021y571970bakeecc3247e7901cf0@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-osx] New document: Project targets by Grobian
1 > We are *not* prefixed. This a page on what we would *like* to be,
2 > somehow.
3
4 Ok, I get it now. Thanks for clarifying that.
5
6 > > mentioned. I'd welcome a tentative future timeline at the bottom of
7 > > the doc, if possible. The common question outside of the core dev
8 > > team seems to be "When will there be something that works that I can
9 > > use [and/or contribute to]?"
10 >
11 > This is actually a question, which's answer is much larger than just me
12 > or the team members. It requires the whole community to agree on a
13 > rather large change into their core product: Portage. You can consider
14 > this as a road towards a huge GLEP. Pieces that I write might be
15 > reusable, in such document, to make it a full story, including some
16 > experimental, but mature results. It's not only our work, far from.
17 > Without the help of some Portage guys, we'd never got here I think.
18 >
19 > Since we're all busy, and progress usually comes with little bumps, I'm
20 > hestitant to give any predictions on time frames. I don't oversee the
21 > whole picture yet, so I don't want to give any release dates.
22
23 I should have explicitly stated that I wasn't looking for dates
24 per-se. More like a list of "here is the milestones that have to
25 happen."
26
27 For example (realizing that this is completely fictional as I'm just
28 on onlooker [but maybe sort of real-sounding], just to illustrate):
29
30 1) Portage guys have to finalize a prefix-aware portage in ~ (latest
31 indications point to this happening by quarter X year Y)
32 2) Portage tree must be updated for prefix
33 3) Concurrent to #2 our devs will release an installer that uses an
34 overlay tree (ambitious users can jump in here)
35 4) Big showstoppers that have issues are addressed
36 5) Portage guys stabilize the prefix-aware portage, tree is all updated
37 6) Beta installer created and released using the real portage tree
38 (beta-friendly users can jump in here) (This step will not reached
39 until issue ABC is also addressed or the century XYZ is reached,
40 whichever is later)
41 etc. etc.
42
43 If you have something like that, a lot of questions can be answered by
44 "we can do that as soon as we reach step X."
45
46 > Thanks for your time to read it and comment upon.
47
48 No problem. I can't wait until the project reaches a point where _I_
49 can actually contribute in a real way.
50
51 I did notice one typo: "...at the moment clumpsy" --> "...at the moment clumsy"
52
53 ~ Nathan
54
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Re: [gentoo-osx] New document: Project targets Grobian <grobian@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-osx] New document: Project targets Marcin Gabrowski <gaber@×××××××××.pl>