Hi,

Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@...>:

> On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:21:36 +0200
> Christian Faulhammer <fauli@g.o> wrote:
> > Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@...>:
> > > On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 19:16:34 +0200
> > > Christian Faulhammer <fauli@g.o> wrote:
> > > >  Attached is a PDF file with always two pages of one layout
> > > > type.  A margin note label is found in every example. Number of
> > > > pages for the whole PMS in the following order:
> > > 
> > > Mmm. Is part of the problem that we're not using a book style
> > > layout? How does it look if we go for even-odd pages, with narrow
> > > outside margins but larger inner margins, with labels always shown
> > > on the inner margins?
> > 
> >  You confuse outside and inside here.  Both inner margins are as
> > wide as one outer margin.  For the PMS one-sided is perfect as
> > people will print it out one-sided, so the unequal margins would
> > just look odd. Layout 2 and 3 are the ones I favour, but I am open
> > to other suggestions.
> 
> By inner / outer, I probably mean even / odd or something. As a
> picture, something like:
> 
>     +-----------+-----------+
>     | aaaaaaa   |   aaaaaaa |
>     | aaaaaaa l |   aaaaaaa |
>     | aaaaaaa   |   aaaaaaa |
>     | aaaaaaa   |   aaaaaaa |
>     | aaaaaaa   | l aaaaaaa |
>     | aaaaaaa   |   aaaaaaa |
>     | aaaaaaa   |   aaaaaaa |
>     | aaaaaaa   |   aaaaaaa |
>     +-----------+-----------+

 A standard two-page layout looks like this

     +----------+----------+
     |  aaaaaaa | aaaaaaa  |
     |  aaaaaaa | aaaaaaa  |
     |  aaaaaaa | aaaaaaa  |
     |  aaaaaaa | aaaaaaa  |
     |  aaaaaaa | aaaaaaa  |
     |  aaaaaaa | aaaaaaa  |
     |  aaaaaaa | aaaaaaa  |
     |          |          |
     +----------+----------+

 But I think I will go away from the calculated page layouts defined by
typearea.sty.  It uses the golden ratio (see
<URL:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canons_of_page_construction>, you
will find two-page layouts there, too), which is great, but I will adapt
it for our needs.  So near to a canon, one-sided and with a bigger outer
(right margin).

> Big gap down the middle where the spine / two-up printing is, narrow
> gap on the outside.

 Which is not the classical canon, but the reverse, caused by two-up
printing in the wrong order (see below).

> I suspect most people who print it out will be printing it out two-up
> anyway.

 Maybe, but it is still a one-page layout I prefer, as people don't
print right pages on the right but left ones, so using a two-page
layout is useless here.

V-Li

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