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From: Ulrich Mueller <ulm@g.o>
To: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@××××××××××.com>
Cc: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>, gentoo-pms@l.g.o, Zac Medico <zmedico@g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-pms] Rephrasing *DEPEND
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 11:27:12
Message-Id: 19967.11904.13769.805714@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-pms] Rephrasing *DEPEND by Ciaran McCreesh
1 >>>>> On Sun, 19 Jun 2011, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
2
3 > On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 23:21:02 +0200 Micha³ Górny <mgorny@g.o> wrote:
4 >> I added a note about the possible circular RDEPEND issue.
5
6 > I still don't think we should be specifying "RDEPEND is PDEPEND if
7 > the package manager feels like it". That's something for the package
8 > mangler to provide as a horrible --ignore-dependencies-to-break-cycles
9 > option.
10
11 It's _not_ saying that RDEPEND is like PDEPEND in some cases. The
12 assertion from your previous message in this thread will always hold:
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14 | The intention with the "usable" stuff is this that purely RDEPEND
15 | cycles are resolvable, but any such cycles must be resolved before
16 | any package which has a DEPEND upon anything in the cycle is
17 | resolved. So if you've got this:
18 |
19 | first <-- rdepend --- second <-- depend --- third
20 | --- rdepend -->
21 |
22 | Then (first, second, third) and (second, first, third) are the only
23 | legal orderings. But if either RDEPEND became a DEPEND (and if we're
24 | not dealing with binary packages) then there would be no legal
25 | ordering.
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27 This is long-standing Portage behaviour (introduced in 2006 with the
28 patches attached to bug 147766, I believe).
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30 The footnote would only clarify that in your example neither "first"
31 nor "second" can rely on their rdepend being available in pkg_*inst.
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33 Ulrich