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Duncan wrote: |
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> Zac Medico <zmedico@g.o> posted 4914E580.5010502@g.o, |
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> excerpted below, on Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:04:00 -0800: |
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>> I haven't talked to [the kde project] about [hard-masking all portage |
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> versions with set support] but AFAIK it entirely possible to use |
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>> kde4 without package sets since the meta-ebuilds are available. |
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> Hmm... I followed the kde4 guide, which talks about sets, and was under |
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> the impression they either weren't even doing the metapackages, with sets |
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> supplanting them, of if they were, they were using set dependencies, thus |
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> required sets. |
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There is no such thing as "set dependencies" yet. It would require a |
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new EAPI. I'm not sure that "set dependencies" are such a good idea, |
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mainly because of the way that users are allowed to subtract atoms |
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from sets. In practice, it's somewhat like package.provided, so a |
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"set dependency" wouldn't actually guarantee that all the intended |
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atoms from that set are installed. |
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> A quick look demonstrates that impression was wrong, however. I'd never |
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> even checked to see if the meta-ebuilds were actually there! |
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> So... it seems the ebuilds are there. Never-the-less, for folks who have |
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> followed the kde4 guide, sets will be (almost) a must, since that's what |
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> it talks about using, so that's probably what folks who read the guide |
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> /did/ use. I know it's what I used.[1] |
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> Regardless, I'd definitely touch base with them on it. At minimum, the |
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> upgrade guide will need either changed or taken down, if set support goes |
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> back hard-masked. I doubt they'll be very happy about it, but if it |
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> needs to happen, well... |
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The worst case is that they'll have to unmask portage-2.2 if they |
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want to use sets instead of meta-ebuilds. |
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> [1] FWIW, I have kde-4.1.2 merged, but consider it still broken and well |
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> short of what I'd find actually workable for daily use. There's just too |
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> many bits and pieces that don't work, and won't work until at least |
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> 4.2.0, possibly 4.3.0 the way things are going. |
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I tried kde-4.1.2, using the kde-meta ebuild, when they first put it |
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in the tree. I wasn't comfortable with it so I use kde-3.5.x still. |
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Thanks, |
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Zac |
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