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From: Zac Medico <zmedico@g.o>
To: gentoo-portage-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] 2.1 release candidate soon?
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 06:37:02
Message-Id: 44360885.5040700@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] 2.1 release candidate soon? by Marius Mauch
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4 Marius Mauch wrote:
5 > On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 19:11:49 -0700
6 > Zac Medico <zmedico@g.o> wrote:
7 >
8 >> The manifest code doesn't have very many use cases so I'd expect that
9 >> we would have hit most major problems by now (even with a small
10 >> sample). Any necessary changes are likely to be small patches. As
11 >> an alternative, we can cut the 2.1 branch at the point before
12 >> manifest2 was merged (2.1_pre7, essentially).
13 >
14 > Releasing 2.1 without manifest2 is a no go, it would significantly
15 > delay the deployment and transition.I'm not requesting to delay 2.1
16 > for another few months, just one more pre release so people get a
17 > chance to test it for one or two weeks.
18
19 Well, 2 weeks isn't so bad. I'm just annoyed by the length of this release cycle and would prefer shorter release cycles in the future.
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21 >>> The remaining feature I'd like to get into 2.1 is the
22 >>> tree-format-check issue, but that could probably be slipped in in
23 >>> the rc phase (don't really like that idea, but it's an option).
24 >> I don't want to rush the development of new features such as
25 >> manifest2 or the tree-format-check. We have a 2.1 branch that, in
26 >> it's current state (2.1_pre7-r4, for example), provides significant
27 >> benefits over the 2.0.x branch. By delaying 2.1's release for the
28 >> addition of _new_ features, we run the risk of the release being
29 >> delayed indefinitely by "just one more feature" syndrome.
30 >> Personally, I'd rather have shorter release periods so that "just one
31 >> more feature" syndrome becomes less of an issue.
32 >
33 > Ehm, this is not "just one more feature", both manifest2 and
34 > the tree-format-check are things to improve forward compability (or for
35 > the latter even enable forward compability at all), so delaying them
36 > will hinder future development, not only for us.
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38 This kind of thing will be less of a problem if we shorten the period of the release cycle. If we shorted it to 2 months or so, then it won't matter much when something gets bumped to the next cycle.
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40 > Also this isn't exactly news to you all as I sent my intentions already
41 > a while ago, and last I asked you all agreed with them, so is there any
42 > reason to rush this now?
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44 Like I've said above, I'm annoyed by the length of this release cycle. The gap between 2.0.x and 2.1 has grown so large that a 2.0.55 release seems (in my mind) like beating a dead horse. The way I see it, a shorter release cycle is needed so that bug fixes are released in _stable_ versions sooner.
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46 Zac
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