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Thanks for the response! I see now. I think the problem from my |
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perspective then is that the docs need to be updated a bit, as they |
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all point to the 'experimental' sections of the mirrors, which only |
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contain old 970-targeting ps3 stage4's. I see now that 'releases' has |
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more generic stage3's suitable for rebuilding specifically for |
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Cell/BE. |
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On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Joseph Jezak <josejx@g.o> wrote: |
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> Wes wrote: |
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>> Hello, |
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>> |
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>> I'm wondering, who is the maintainer of the PS3 port? I have a few |
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>> issues I'd like to raise. One being the fact that it's been built |
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>> targeting entirely the wrong ppc arch. Several sources I've come |
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>> across state that the pipelines are so different, that doing this |
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>> severely hurts performance, and you are in fact better off targeting |
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>> generic ppc than running 970-targeted binaries on CELL/BE. Also, |
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>> newer gcc's are available now which have an mcpu=cell target and it |
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>> would probably be best to make the playstation3 port..... a |
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>> playstation3 port! And not a ps3 / g5 port. These machines differ so |
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>> much it is incredibly detrimental to try to support both with the 1 |
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>> port. Specially when there are better ports existing already for g5. |
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>> |
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>> Also, the only available release is still a stage4, that hasn't been |
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>> updated in a whole year. While I commend the efforts of the |
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>> maintainer so far (apart from the 970 target mistake), it would be |
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>> nice if they actually maintained the port, or handed off to someone |
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>> more willing if they've grown bored with it. |
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>> |
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>> It is my impression that this specific port currently does not follow |
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>> any Gentoo ideals or philosophy, and is desperately in need of change. |
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>> |
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> The PS3 "port" (stage 4) that you're talking about was a test build done |
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> by one of the PowerPC team developers, Brent Baude, and isn't an |
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> official release, (as far as I know). |
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> |
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> As for a real port, the basic install can be easily done with the |
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> generic ppc/ppc64 stages that we already make! Simply install the |
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> stage3, and recompile the whole system using "emerge world -Duve", |
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> although you may want to rebuild the system targets first. There is no |
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> need for additional stages. By giving you the ability to install on a |
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> multitude of targets, while still allowing for optimization and |
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> configuration, well, that seem like it meets the Gentoo ideals and |
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> philosophy! |
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> |
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> That said, we probably do need to make an updated minimal install CD for |
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> PS3 if one doesn't already exist. Unfortunately, the PPC team doesn't |
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> have a whole lot of man-power at this time, so that will get done as |
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> soon as someone decides that it needs to be done and has the time to do it. |
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> |
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> Again, you can use *any* LiveCD (even other distros!) to boot the |
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> system, but the current PowerPC stages are adequate to complete a fully |
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> optimized Gentoo on PS3 install. |
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> |
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> Hope that helps, |
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> -Joe |
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