Gentoo Archives: gentoo-ppc-user

From: Colin <signofzeta@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-ppc-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-ppc-user] (Slightly OT) PC PCI cards in a Gentoo-ed Mac?
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:10:34
Message-Id: 42BF279B.1020906@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-ppc-user] (Slightly OT) PC PCI cards in a Gentoo-ed Mac? by David Holm
1 David Holm wrote:
2
3 >On Sunday 26 June 2005 22:08, Colin wrote:
4 >
5 >
6 >>I've been thinking about creating a MythTV server. I've got two Power
7 >>Mac 8500's and a PowerCenter 180 (low-profile) lying around that I'm not
8 >>using, but the add-in cards are PC-only (an IDE card and a TV tuner).
9 >>
10 >>The Mac OS doesn't detect the ATA card, never tried the TV tuner. When
11 >>Gentoo boots, would it detect the cards when the PCI bus gets coldplugged?
12 >>
13 >>
14 >The TV tuner should work as long as it's supported by a Linux driver. The IDE
15 >card might be another issue. Normally they come with an x86 BIOS that needs
16 >to be executed on boot so the card is initialized properly before Linux
17 >drivers takes over. On the Pegasos for instance there is an x86 emulator in
18 >the firmware that can initialize cards with an x86 BIOS, Apple does not have
19 >this feature.
20 >I'm not saying that it's not going to work but afaik it won't work in a Mac
21 >for the reason given above. You should get a card with an FMOD driver (a
22 >driver that runs in open firmware) a.k.a. a card made for Mac. One made for
23 >Sun/SPARC or any other platform which uses Open Firmware should work too.
24 >It's too bad x86 has to live 30 years in the past and rely on stupid
25 >architecture-dependant BIOS:es. If they were using Open Firmware like the
26 >modern computer world all cards would be virtually platform independent.
27 >
28 >
29 I remember trying the card in an HP Pavilion. Instead of initializing
30 the RAID BIOS, it gave an error. However, in Windows, the two extra IDE
31 channels were installed and the drives showed up just fine. Anyway,
32 I'll give it a shot.
33
34 <rant>
35 I agree, BIOSes are pretty stupid. I'm a PC user most of the time (but
36 I just bought a beautiful Lombard to take to school as my primary
37 computer, which will have OS X/Gentoo). All BIOSes do is just slow down
38 your boot-up time. First, the graphics card's BIOS loads, then your
39 system BIOS loads and does all the boot-up tests, then your network
40 card's BIOS loads, then your RAID controller's BIOS... oh god, that's
41 the worst BIOS of all. It takes like 30 seconds just to reach the
42 bootloader, and that's with all the quick boot options turned on. I
43 just wish BIOSes followed some kind of standard so I could LinuxBIOS
44 every PC I use.
45 </rant>
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