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I was waiting for the "We'll talk about them in a bit." part or some other |
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reactions to this. As there have been none so far, here's what *I* |
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think. :-) |
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On Friday, June 15, 2007 04:20:56 PM Ferris McCormick wrote: |
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> You asked for the documents musikc sent to council. Here they are. |
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"E. [Proctors/Devrel] determine recruiting needs and recruit to achieve |
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them." |
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Members of an institution that is supposed to impose disciplinary action |
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on Gentoo devs and others should not be recruited but elected. |
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Otherwise their authority will be challenged all the time. Elected members |
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will have at least a *bit* more autority. |
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"There is no option to think about it --- either make a stop or let it |
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go." |
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That's a rather bad idea - no option to think about how to handle a |
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situation? If I were cynical, I'd say that's what got you into the |
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current situation. ;) |
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"They [Proctors] work "real time"" |
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That'll lead to rushed (and therefore potentially wrong) decisions. |
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IMO, we don't need proctors but if the proctors are kept, they should work |
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on a comlaint basis, too. Suppose both parties come from "Czamistan" - |
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they both know "big-balled goat lover" is not an insult but a |
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compliment - why should proctors react? |
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Suppose I come from Germany (which I do :-) ) and am being called |
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a "big-balled goat lover" - if you could see me, you'd witness me roaring |
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with laughter. Even though I don't know what "Czamistan" is and that this |
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is meant to be a compliment. Many people can, btw, read between the lines |
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and understand what is actually meant. :-) |
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We don't a big brother watching us - we can decide for ourselves if we're |
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offended or not. If we are, we can either complain to DevRel (if the |
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other party is a dev) or, if the proctors are kept, to proctors. |
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Without proctors, we can simply ignore non-dev offenders. We may have to |
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deal with other devs but there's no obligation to interact with certain |
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users. |
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"and after some conditioning", "re-orientation" and some other terms used |
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in either or both documents. |
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I'm sorry and maybe it comes from the cultural differences but, honestly, |
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to me this sounds like we're going to have "re-education camps" for |
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the "misguided". |
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Best regards, Wulf |