Gentoo Archives: gentoo-project

From: "M. J. Everitt" <m.j.everitt@×××.org>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] The problem of defunct and undermanned projects in Gentoo
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 21:44:34
Message-Id: 4ced4240-f14b-d37d-eb84-c9dc4ef583dd@iee.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] The problem of defunct and undermanned projects in Gentoo by "Michał Górny"
1 On 18/07/17 22:40, Michał Górny wrote:
2 > On wto, 2017-07-18 at 22:35 +0100, M. J. Everitt wrote:
3 >> On 18/07/17 22:23, Kent Fredric wrote:
4 >>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 22:12:45 +0100
5 >>> "M. J. Everitt" <m.j.everitt@×××.org> wrote:
6 >>>
7 >>>> I think mgorny was doing some general commit stats, and I have yet to
8 >>>> compile my own, but it would be very interesting to see how many
9 >>>> 'active' team members there were in any given project. I suspect the
10 >>>> results could be very telling ...
11 >>> Its not even like they're "inactive", they're just not active *in the team*.
12 >>>
13 >>> For some, there's no reason for them to devaway:
14 >>>
15 >>> - They're on IRC
16 >>> - They commit daily
17 >>>
18 >>> But they're on teams they seldom do things in.
19 >>>
20 >>> This is probably more true the more teams you're on.
21 >> Then why are you 'in' the team.. I mean, there's one thing to idle on an
22 >> IRC channel, but membership does normally imply some form of
23 >> contribution, no? Or is it just to make you 'look'
24 >> interested/popular/part-of-the-furniture ....
25 > Well, that *is* a problem. However, we are supposed to be friendly
26 > and nice, and not tell other developers that they have done literally
27 > nothing during the 2 years they're part of some project. That could
28 > discourage them from contributing.
29 >
30 > You are also not supposed to try to offload yourself and distribute
31 > the work to them. That's bossing around, and it discourages others from
32 > actually doing anything.
33 >
34 > So, well, you're just supposed to smile and thank them for doing nothing
35 > for the project because otherwise they could feel offended
36 > and discouraged from doing anything,
37 >
38 Very diplomatically put ... *takes hat off* ...

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