[gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Cleanup of the "Get Gentoo" page

On 8/8/10 9:22 PM, Joshua Saddler wrote:
> I already did clean it up when I punted the last of the 2008.0
> references from it, and some other sundry fixes.

I appreciate that cleanup, and noticed a recent "last updated" date.

However, I think the page can be made even better. My goal is to make
downloading Gentoo as straightforward as possible.

On 8/8/10 9:22 PM, Joshua Saddler wrote:
> By shifting stuff around, you've put all the explanations of "what
> all these weirdly named things are" to the end, which means visitors
> may be more confused. I'm not sure this was the best idea, but lemme
> think about it awhile longer.

Let's analyze it. Maybe we can display the links in a different way, but
the only info I have moved below the download links seems to be:

- releng project page link
- information that the isos and stages are generated weekly, and other
  technical details like that

Please note that the Gentoo Handbook link is still there, before the
download links.

Ideally, I'd like to expose x86 and amd64 (most common desktop arches)
even more. People who need different arches know what they are doing,
but many users are confused by all this arch thing, but may still be
able to install Gentoo by following the instructions precisely.

So the idea would be to split the links into two groups: x86 and amd64
at the top, and all the rest below that.

On 8/9/10 12:20 AM, Roy Bamford wrote:
> I would like to see some explaination of what each arch covers. Many
> users get the wrong iso/tarball the first time around.
>
> e.g. x86 instead of i686 and vice versa, ia64 instead of amd64.
>
> If this were a table, you could list the CPU families covered by each
> group.

Roy, I was considering something like this. However, I'm not really sure
what to write for arches other than x86 and amd64. And there are a lot
of x86 cpu families.

Maybe we can do the cleanup incrementally. This change suggestion is
focused on moving the download links to the top of the page. A next
change suggestion may focus on explaining the arches, and choosing the
best place for it (download page vs. the handbook, or maybe handbook has
it already covered).

On 8/8/10 9:22 PM, Joshua Saddler wrote:
> Also, please don't EVER set reply-to to "gentoo-project" when the
> topic is actually something related to distribution development, in
> this case, the landing page.

Now I get some conflicting advice. This is exactly what some other
developer has asked me to do (send to gentoo-dev-announce and reply-to
gentoo-project instead of sending just to gentoo-project).

If you meant that this belongs on gentoo-dev, then what belongs on
gentoo-project? My current understanding is like this: code, ebuilds,
eclasses, technical stuff - gentoo-dev. project direction, website,
non-code policies - gentoo-project.

Paweł