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Chrissy Fullam wrote: |
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>> Donnie Berkholz wrote: |
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>> Here is the summary from today's council meeting. The |
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>> complete log will show up at |
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> <snip> |
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> - The CoC is in effect, but it needs a new enforcement section since the |
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> proctors were disbanded. The council is sending discussion of this to |
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> the gentoo-project list, to come up with proposals for three points: |
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> - who enforces it |
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> - musikc said devrel could |
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> - tsunam said userrel could |
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> <snip> |
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> |
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> I wanted to clarify, please understand the intent behind my part of the |
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> conversation was that devrel and userrel should continue to share the |
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> responsibility as appropriate, and continue to work together, including |
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> the questionable/overlapping areas. The above may have been misinterpreted |
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> by some to indicate 'pick which one', when my intent was a joined front on |
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> enforcing the CoC. |
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That seems reasonable, since the two groups who need equal treatment in an |
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even-handed, impartial manner, are the users and the devs. I'd be happier |
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if user-reps were considered for the pool as well, since devs all seem to |
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know each other fairly well and are quite a close-knit virtual community. |
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Closing ranks happens: deal with it or not. *shrug* YMMV. |
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>> Donnie Berkholz wrote: |
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> > - how to enforce it |
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> > - whether it's active or passive enforcement |
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Er well I'd say passive enforcements what you've had so far (at least as far |
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as the dev m-l, which is where many issues seem to surface, goes) and it |
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hasn't worked out very well, which was why there was the long "discussion" |
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on dev[1] followed by the decision to establish the proctors[2]. |
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> > - which actions are appropriate |
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> > |
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IMO muting a thread/locking a forum post/setting irc +m for 24 |
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hours/forever/however long the ops think it needs, with email/privmsg/pm |
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discussion with whichever people are most vociferously flaming each other |
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(as decided by the mods.) |
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> > - If the -project list does not come up with a draft, dberkholz will |
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> > write one based on -project discussion to vote upon at the November |
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> > council meeting. |
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Of course, you're going to need people who have experience of forum |
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moderation, since that's the closest to email. IRC ops can overreact in |
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this context, since they have to close a flamewar/cursing-match/abusive |
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situation down in real-time, so their instinct is naturally to set +b for |
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the medium. |
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[1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/46339/focus=46611 |
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[2] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/46780 |
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